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Rain bypassing gutter dmhamilt 11-02-2007
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Posted by MLD on November 2, 2007, 12:49 pm

> I have fairly new gutters and they are not working. The rain runs
> between the house and the gutter. I have verified that the shingles
> overlap into the guttter, but the water sticks to the bottom side of
> the shingle instead of dripping into the gutter. The water runs
> underneath the shingle back towards the house and runs between the
> house and the gutter. In some instances the water accumulates above
> the soffit at eave vinyl. I am concerned this will rot the roof.
>
> I already have drip gaurds.
>
> Any ideas on what to look for? or how to fix it?
>
I didn't have that much of a space so I was able to use caulking between the
gutter and the fascia board to stop water from running between the gutter
and the house.
MLD



Posted by Red Green on November 2, 2007, 2:41 pm
dmhamilt@gmail.com wrote in news:1193983175.832998.286730
@o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:

> I have fairly new gutters and they are not working. The rain runs
> between the house and the gutter. I have verified that the shingles
> overlap into the guttter, but the water sticks to the bottom side of
> the shingle instead of dripping into the gutter. The water runs
> underneath the shingle back towards the house and runs between the
> house and the gutter. In some instances the water accumulates above
> the soffit at eave vinyl. I am concerned this will rot the roof.
>
> I already have drip gaurds.
>
> Any ideas on what to look for? or how to fix it?
>

You do have metal drip edge on there right?
        http://search.hardwarestore.com/?query=drip+edge

If so, you are saying the water is following the underside of the shingle
to the drip edge, running down the drip edge, then going from the lip of
the drip edge onto the fascia board behind the gutter. Is that correct?

If that is the case (which I had to deal with once), you can get some
aluminum or vinyl strips/flashing whatever. Cut long stips wide enough to
overhang the gutter when the other end is slid up behind the drip edge
lip on the facia board.

You'll need to tack it so it stays put. If you use aluminum, use aluminum
nails. If you don't, the nails (even galvanized) will corrode the
aluminum over time and the nailheads will eventually give.


Posted by JoeSpareBedroom on November 2, 2007, 2:43 pm
> dmhamilt@gmail.com wrote in news:1193983175.832998.286730
> @o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
>
>> I have fairly new gutters and they are not working. The rain runs
>> between the house and the gutter. I have verified that the shingles
>> overlap into the guttter, but the water sticks to the bottom side of
>> the shingle instead of dripping into the gutter. The water runs
>> underneath the shingle back towards the house and runs between the
>> house and the gutter. In some instances the water accumulates above
>> the soffit at eave vinyl. I am concerned this will rot the roof.
>>
>> I already have drip gaurds.
>>
>> Any ideas on what to look for? or how to fix it?
>>
>
> You do have metal drip edge on there right?
> http://search.hardwarestore.com/?query=drip+edge
>
> If so, you are saying the water is following the underside of the shingle
> to the drip edge, running down the drip edge, then going from the lip of
> the drip edge onto the fascia board behind the gutter. Is that correct?
>
> If that is the case (which I had to deal with once), you can get some
> aluminum or vinyl strips/flashing whatever. Cut long stips wide enough to
> overhang the gutter when the other end is slid up behind the drip edge
> lip on the facia board.
>
> You'll need to tack it so it stays put. If you use aluminum, use aluminum
> nails. If you don't, the nails (even galvanized) will corrode the
> aluminum over time and the nailheads will eventually give.
>

How about riveting it to the back edge of the gutter, if the gutter is
aluminum?



Posted by Red Green on November 2, 2007, 3:42 pm

>> dmhamilt@gmail.com wrote in news:1193983175.832998.286730
>> @o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> I have fairly new gutters and they are not working. The rain runs
>>> between the house and the gutter. I have verified that the shingles
>>> overlap into the guttter, but the water sticks to the bottom side of
>>> the shingle instead of dripping into the gutter. The water runs
>>> underneath the shingle back towards the house and runs between the
>>> house and the gutter. In some instances the water accumulates above
>>> the soffit at eave vinyl. I am concerned this will rot the roof.
>>>
>>> I already have drip gaurds.
>>>
>>> Any ideas on what to look for? or how to fix it?
>>>
>>
>> You do have metal drip edge on there right?
>> http://search.hardwarestore.com/?query=drip+edge
>>
>> If so, you are saying the water is following the underside of the
>> shingle to the drip edge, running down the drip edge, then going from
>> the lip of the drip edge onto the fascia board behind the gutter. Is
>> that correct?
>>
>> If that is the case (which I had to deal with once), you can get some
>> aluminum or vinyl strips/flashing whatever. Cut long stips wide
>> enough to overhang the gutter when the other end is slid up behind
>> the drip edge lip on the facia board.
>>
>> You'll need to tack it so it stays put. If you use aluminum, use
>> aluminum nails. If you don't, the nails (even galvanized) will
>> corrode the aluminum over time and the nailheads will eventually
>> give.
>>
>
> How about riveting it to the back edge of the gutter, if the gutter is
> aluminum?
>
>
>

Many ways. Just providing a concept/approach.

Then there's roofing nails (2" would work), gutter spikes, railroad
spikes, a crossbow, etc...and of course - duct tape (poster's pick).


Red...

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Posted by JoeSpareBedroom on November 2, 2007, 3:47 pm
>
>>> dmhamilt@gmail.com wrote in news:1193983175.832998.286730
>>> @o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>> I have fairly new gutters and they are not working. The rain runs
>>>> between the house and the gutter. I have verified that the shingles
>>>> overlap into the guttter, but the water sticks to the bottom side of
>>>> the shingle instead of dripping into the gutter. The water runs
>>>> underneath the shingle back towards the house and runs between the
>>>> house and the gutter. In some instances the water accumulates above
>>>> the soffit at eave vinyl. I am concerned this will rot the roof.
>>>>
>>>> I already have drip gaurds.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas on what to look for? or how to fix it?
>>>>
>>>
>>> You do have metal drip edge on there right?
>>> http://search.hardwarestore.com/?query=drip+edge
>>>
>>> If so, you are saying the water is following the underside of the
>>> shingle to the drip edge, running down the drip edge, then going from
>>> the lip of the drip edge onto the fascia board behind the gutter. Is
>>> that correct?
>>>
>>> If that is the case (which I had to deal with once), you can get some
>>> aluminum or vinyl strips/flashing whatever. Cut long stips wide
>>> enough to overhang the gutter when the other end is slid up behind
>>> the drip edge lip on the facia board.
>>>
>>> You'll need to tack it so it stays put. If you use aluminum, use
>>> aluminum nails. If you don't, the nails (even galvanized) will
>>> corrode the aluminum over time and the nailheads will eventually
>>> give.
>>>
>>
>> How about riveting it to the back edge of the gutter, if the gutter is
>> aluminum?
>>
>>
>>
>
> Many ways. Just providing a concept/approach.
>
> Then there's roofing nails (2" would work), gutter spikes, railroad
> spikes, a crossbow, etc...and of course - duct tape (poster's pick).
>
>
> Red...

The crossbow definitely sounds like a red green idea!



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