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Re: Are we the only ones getting screwed ????? hallerb@aol.com 03-28-2008
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Posted by on April 16, 2008, 2:52 pm
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 07:14:04 -0700 (PDT), mkirsch1@rochester.rr.com
wrote:

>On Mar 29, 6:12 pm, websu...@cox.net wrote:
>> And don't get me started on crop
>> subsidies for the farmers themselves.  It's a racket.
>
>Don't get started. You wouldn't have a clue what you're talking about.
>
>Without the government subsidizing our farms, you wouldn't have
>anything to eat. For 30-odd years, farmers were receiving the same
>amount of money for their crops, while the price of equipment, fuel,
>fertilizer all rose with inflation... and that was WITH the government
>subsidies! It's only recently with the fuel crunch that the prices of
>crops have risen to where they should've been all along.
>
>You can't have your cheap food and no government subsidies to farmers.
>It's one or the other. Either quit complaining or pay for your food!

Which farmers are you tallking about -- the classic struggling
American farm family, or the agribusiness corporate giants with their
tentacles into Congress, "stealing" water that was priced for family
farms, never for those behemoths.

Posted by Stormin Mormon on March 31, 2008, 6:25 pm
The environmental people closing wells, that hasn't helped. Think Alaska,
and offshore. I do believe we have oil in the USA that isn't being used.

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High oil prices IS an energy policy (albeit not a planned one--Bush
isn't responsible for it)
With high oil prices, alternative energy will gain strength.
If oil is cheap, we won't change. I've been advocating $5.00 per
gallon for gas for some years now. However, I would have like to have
seen it gradually, and through taxation, instead of a dollar
devaluation and a rise in world consumption.



Posted by on April 1, 2008, 1:11 am
On Mar 31, 3:25 pm, "Stormin Mormon"
> The environmental people closing wells, that hasn't helped. Think Alaska,
> and offshore. I do believe we have oil in the USA that isn't being used.
>

The enviros have helped a lot.
If the oil isn't pumped now, and energy costs therefore rise, we will
have that finite oil a bit longer, while alternatives and efficiency
are encouraged.
If we pump it all quickly and cheaply, we will run out that much
sooner and with fewer alternatives on line.

Posted by HeyBub on March 29, 2008, 7:46 am
hallerb@aol.com wrote:
>> Put on another sweater. Our government is not responsible for the
>> world-wide price of oil. Oil is fungible.
>
> the fast and loose devaluing of our money is at least partially from
> ru away war spending and the lack of any energy policy at all.
>
> big oil owns the white house and congress, and were getting screwed

Nice theory, but it doesn't explain why countries with even less of an
energy policy than we are seeing the cost of oil go up too.

As to oil companies owning the White House and Congress, who would you
rather own them? Rice farmers? Rat Terrier breeders? The AMC Gremlin Fan
Club?

At least with oil companies, when you get screwed, you get lubed up first.



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