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Re: Are we the only ones getting screwed ????? gfretwell 03-29-2008
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Posted by on March 29, 2008, 2:59 pm
On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 05:23:50 -0700, Smitty Two

>According to Environmental Attorney Robert F. Kennedy, Jr, senior
>counsel for the National Resources Defense Fund:

Would that be he same RFKjr that blocked Cape Wind, the wind farm off
Nantucket? (along with his drunken uncle Ted, John Kerry and Mitt
Romney)

Posted by Smitty Two on March 29, 2008, 8:16 pm
gfretwell@aol.com wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 05:23:50 -0700, Smitty Two
>
> >According to Environmental Attorney Robert F. Kennedy, Jr, senior
> >counsel for the National Resources Defense Fund:
>
> Would that be he same RFKjr that blocked Cape Wind, the wind farm off
> Nantucket? (along with his drunken uncle Ted, John Kerry and Mitt
> Romney)

Does that disqualify the cited calculations? Maybe you don't like him,
or you think he's a hypocrite, but that doesn't invalidate the message.
I doubt he obtained those numbers from throwing darts in a pub.

Posted by on March 29, 2008, 11:38 pm
On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:16:04 -0700, Smitty Two

> gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 05:23:50 -0700, Smitty Two
>>
>> >According to Environmental Attorney Robert F. Kennedy, Jr, senior
>> >counsel for the National Resources Defense Fund:
>>
>> Would that be he same RFKjr that blocked Cape Wind, the wind farm off
>> Nantucket? (along with his drunken uncle Ted, John Kerry and Mitt
>> Romney)
>
>Does that disqualify the cited calculations? Maybe you don't like him,
>or you think he's a hypocrite, but that doesn't invalidate the message.
>I doubt he obtained those numbers from throwing darts in a pub.

I just think it is a bullshit number. In the 74 the average MPG in the
US was 12.9 and they told us creating the CAFE standard by 6MPG would
make us energy independent. In 78 it was 18. Right now it is 27.5 and
we import more oil than ever. Making it 28 or 29 is not going to
suddenly allow us to kiss off the Saudis.



Posted by Tony Hwang on March 29, 2008, 10:48 pm
gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:16:04 -0700, Smitty Two
>
>
>>gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 05:23:50 -0700, Smitty Two
>>>
>>>
>>>>According to Environmental Attorney Robert F. Kennedy, Jr, senior
>>>>counsel for the National Resources Defense Fund:
>>>
>>>Would that be he same RFKjr that blocked Cape Wind, the wind farm off
>>>Nantucket? (along with his drunken uncle Ted, John Kerry and Mitt
>>>Romney)
>>
>>Does that disqualify the cited calculations? Maybe you don't like him,
>>or you think he's a hypocrite, but that doesn't invalidate the message.
>>I doubt he obtained those numbers from throwing darts in a pub.
>
>
> I just think it is a bullshit number. In the 74 the average MPG in the
> US was 12.9 and they told us creating the CAFE standard by 6MPG would
> make us energy independent. In 78 it was 18. Right now it is 27.5 and
> we import more oil than ever. Making it 28 or 29 is not going to
> suddenly allow us to kiss off the Saudis.
>
>
Hmmm,
Look at the increasing consumption. Nixon era started talking about
alternate energy and created also EPA. Look at the size of car getting
bigger as well. People have short memory and never seem to learn.
How much money U.S. spent on Iraq war? If that was used to develope
alternate energy......

Posted by on March 30, 2008, 10:12 am
>
> =A0gfretw...@aol.com wrote:
> > On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 05:23:50 -0700, Smitty Two
>
> > >According to Environmental Attorney Robert F. Kennedy, Jr, senior
> > >counsel for the National Resources Defense Fund:
>
> > Would that be he same RFKjr that blocked Cape Wind, the wind farm off
> > Nantucket? (along with his drunken uncle Ted, John Kerry and Mitt
> > Romney)
>
> Does that disqualify the cited calculations? Maybe you don't like him,
> or you think he's a hypocrite, but that doesn't invalidate the message.
> I doubt he obtained those numbers from throwing darts in a pub.


No, it doesn't totally discredit the obviously bogus number that
should set off anyone's BS detector. But it is a start. Let me
finish the discrediting process:

http://www.pollutionissues.com/A-Bo/Arctic-National-Wildlife-Refuge.html
"The U.S. Geological Survey has estimated that ANWR likely holds
enough oil to supply six months of U.S. consumption, and that these
reserves would take ten years to develop. Conservationists point out
that the United States could easily save more oil than can be
extracted from ANWR by increasing automobile fuel efficiency
standards. For example, a one-mile per gallon increase in U.S.
automobile fuel efficiency for a thirty-year period would save more
oil than the projected yield from ANWR. "

The bogus claim is off by a factor of 30. Now it is totally
discredited. And that assumes that the US Geological Survey estimate
is right. How about if ANWR has an actual field the size of Saudi
Arabia or Kuwait? But, the Kennedy clan would rather go around with
a cup begging for oil from their buddy Hugo Chavez, blocking offshore
wind if it's off their shore, and spreading nonsense.

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