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Re: Circular saws: Which type to buy? Worm-drive or side-winder? Lil' Dave 06-13-2005
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Posted by Lil' Dave on June 13, 2005, 6:21 am
> I'm soon to begin constructing a ground level (i.e. 14" above ground)
cedar
> deck off the back of my house, and so right now I'm in the process of
> determining all that I will need to purchase before I begin, including a
few
> new power tools. For example, the circular saw I have is okay for
> occasional use but I dread using it for a whole project, so I want to buy
> myself a considerably better one. Now, aside from value-per-price
> considerations, what should I look for in shopping for a very-good to high
> quality circular saw? And in particular, what should I make of
"worm-drive"
> versus the more common, "side-winder", type saws?
>
> A couple of acquaintances of mine praise their worm-drives as being
> inherently superior in every way to the ordinary (i.e. side-winder) type.
> But I've noticed that these worm-drive saws are comparatively heavier
(which
> might not be ergonominally advantageous, I don't know). And the position
of
> the handles on these saws just looks (to my minds eye, at least) to be
> awkward to handle and perhaps not intended for close, precision or
finishing
> work.
>
> Of course, since I haven't actually ever used a worm-drive saw, my
untested
> perceptions of it don't necessarily mean a thing. Hence, I'm posting this
> message in the hopes someone might 'enlighten' me in this before I come to
a
> decision what to buy. Thanks in advance...
>
> Ken
>
>

If you choose to buy a less expensive circular saw, be careful. An aluminum
table bevel arm, and depth arm can easily bend. Very difficult to
straighten correctly without dismantling the table entirely. The blade may
head in one direction, and the table edge may slighly off-direction in case
of aluminum tables on some less expensive circular saws. I built a one car
garage/workshop with such a circular saw. Ignored the table edge and
followed the line with the saw blade instead.

Critical bevel cuts, like in fascia, I used a miter/drop saw. Mass-produced
common rafters with the same miter saw as well, with an 8' table on either
side of the miter saw. A miter saw won't try to walk off a cross-cut line,
like some circular saws do. Miter saws are not influenced by cupping or
minor surface defects in the wood.

Worm-drive saws are heavy in weight compared to the less expensive circular
saws. I doubt if you can bend their tables by typical bumps and short drops
to the earth. They tend to have more amperage to cut with, generally do a
good line cut without much user guidance.

Right now, after finishing the garage, painting a house interior, trenching
mostly rock for water pipe and conduit to the house and garage, am suffering
from strained tendons in my right elbow area. Doc is treating me with
localized cortisone shots. If I had been using a worm drive saw on that
garage, suspect I would be hurting a bit more. You're right, ergonomics is
a factor.



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Posted by Phil Scott on June 13, 2005, 4:53 pm

> > I'm soon to begin constructing a ground level (i.e. 14"
above ground)
> cedar
> > deck off the back of my house, and so right now I'm in the
process of
> > determining all that I will need to purchase before I
begin, including a
> few
> > new power tools. For example, the circular saw I have is
okay for
> > occasional use but I dread using it for a whole project,
so I want to buy
> > myself a considerably better one. Now, aside from
value-per-price
> > considerations, what should I look for in shopping for a
very-good to high
> > quality circular saw? And in particular, what should I
make of
> "worm-drive"
> > versus the more common, "side-winder", type saws?
> >
> > A couple of acquaintances of mine praise their worm-drives
as being
> > inherently superior in every way to the ordinary (i.e.
side-winder) type.
> > But I've noticed that these worm-drive saws are
comparatively heavier
> (which
> > might not be ergonominally advantageous, I don't know).
And the position
> of
> > the handles on these saws just looks (to my minds eye, at
least) to be
> > awkward to handle and perhaps not intended for close,
precision or
> finishing
> > work.
> >
> > Of course, since I haven't actually ever used a worm-drive
saw, my
> untested
> > perceptions of it don't necessarily mean a thing. Hence,
I'm posting this
> > message in the hopes someone might 'enlighten' me in this
before I come to
> a
> > decision what to buy. Thanks in advance...
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
>
> If you choose to buy a less expensive circular saw, be
careful. An aluminum
> table bevel arm, and depth arm can easily bend. Very
difficult to
> straighten correctly without dismantling the table entirely.
The blade may
> head in one direction, and the table edge may slighly
off-direction in case
> of aluminum tables on some less expensive circular saws. I
built a one car
> garage/workshop with such a circular saw. Ignored the table
edge and
> followed the line with the saw blade instead.
>
> Critical bevel cuts, like in fascia, I used a miter/drop
saw. Mass-produced
> common rafters with the same miter saw as well, with an 8'
table on either
> side of the miter saw. A miter saw won't try to walk off a
cross-cut line,
> like some circular saws do. Miter saws are not influenced
by cupping or
> minor surface defects in the wood.
>
> Worm-drive saws are heavy in weight compared to the less
expensive circular
> saws. I doubt if you can bend their tables by typical bumps
and short drops
> to the earth. They tend to have more amperage to cut with,
generally do a
> good line cut without much user guidance.
>
> Right now, after finishing the garage, painting a house
interior, trenching
> mostly rock for water pipe and conduit to the house and
garage, am suffering
> from strained tendons in my right elbow area. Doc is
treating me with
> localized cortisone shots. If I had been using a worm drive
saw on that
> garage, suspect I would be hurting a bit more. You're
right, ergonomics is
> a factor.

I have a super light craftsman 5" side wider for a lot of
work...very handy. doesnt wear you out..but its slower than a
bigger saw. It cuts a 2x4 narrow with in one cut, straight
but not beveled of course..and its great for overhead work.
Its half the wt of a larger saw.



Phil Scott

>
>



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