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Re: Compact fluorescents in enclosed fixtures Don Klipstein 03-26-2007
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Posted by Don Klipstein on March 26, 2007, 3:14 pm


Paterson wrote in part:

> Although there is no real way a 23W lamp is going to heat an enclosure
>to the same extent than a 75W lamp (especially when more energy is
>leaving as light),

I know this is true, but a 42 watt CFL can heat a fixture more than a 60
watt incandescent does. I experimented with an 8 inch glass globe, a 60
watt Sylvania "Soft White", a 42 watt Commercial Electric spiral, and a
Raytek non-contact thermometer. The 42 watt spiral heated the globe very
slightly more than the 60 watt A19, and not just at the top.

More light *and* greater fixture temperature rise with less input power
- how? The incandescent produces a lot of infrared, much of which escapes
the fixture the same way that visible light does. With a CFL, nearly all
energy that does not get converted to visible light becomes convected and
conducted heat.

- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

Posted by Dave Martindale on March 27, 2007, 4:01 pm


don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein) writes:

> I know this is true, but a 42 watt CFL can heat a fixture more than a 60
>watt incandescent does. I experimented with an 8 inch glass globe, a 60
>watt Sylvania "Soft White", a 42 watt Commercial Electric spiral, and a
>Raytek non-contact thermometer. The 42 watt spiral heated the globe very
>slightly more than the 60 watt A19, and not just at the top.

> More light *and* greater fixture temperature rise with less input power
>- how? The incandescent produces a lot of infrared, much of which escapes
>the fixture the same way that visible light does. With a CFL, nearly all
>energy that does not get converted to visible light becomes convected and
>conducted heat.

That's a very interesting result. However, it's worth pointing out that
the 42 W CFL was probably putting out about 3 times as much light as the
60 W incandescent. Most people replace an incandescent with a CFL of
similar light output, probably 13 or 15 W to replace a 60 W. In that
case, the fixture would be much cooler with the 15 W CFL than the 60 W
incandescent.

        Dave

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