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Re: DO NOT CALL list Larry 05-03-2008
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Posted by Larry on May 3, 2008, 12:27 pm
@news.infowest.com:

> The best revenge is to cost them what they value most. Time.
>
>

This works at the post office, too. I kept getting pre-approved credit
card apps from JP Morgan-Chase Bank, platinum business cards. I sent two
back saying no and take me off the list, but they persisted. So, I
started sending them in to see if they'd really send me more cards. (I
already have one.) They kept sending them and sending them. I have 10
Chase Business cards, now, all with different numbers on them with really
high credit limits....all with 3% cashback and no fees. Every month, I
rotate using them to keep them active as you must use them at least once
every 12 months to keep them active. I can now afford open heart surgery
at the best hospital in the country with the highest priced vampires.

So far, noone as questioned why I have so many Chase cards.....stupid?
Them or me? The cost me nothing as I always pay off the bill...no
interest, no charges.

One hand has no idea what another hand is doing in big corporations.....


Posted by on May 3, 2008, 1:36 pm

>@news.infowest.com:
>
>> The best revenge is to cost them what they value most. Time.
>>
>>
>
>This works at the post office, too. I kept getting pre-approved credit
>card apps from JP Morgan-Chase Bank, platinum business cards. I sent two
>back saying no and take me off the list, but they persisted. So, I
>started sending them in to see if they'd really send me more cards. (I
>already have one.) They kept sending them and sending them. I have 10
>Chase Business cards, now, all with different numbers on them with really
>high credit limits....all with 3% cashback and no fees. Every month, I
>rotate using them to keep them active as you must use them at least once
>every 12 months to keep them active. I can now afford open heart surgery
>at the best hospital in the country with the highest priced vampires.
>
>So far, noone as questioned why I have so many Chase cards.....stupid?
>Them or me? The cost me nothing as I always pay off the bill...no
>interest, no charges.
>
>One hand has no idea what another hand is doing in big corporations.....

It's my understanding -- open to correction -- that applying for many
credit cards is detrimental to one's credit rating. The thinking of
the Big Three rating organizations is that somebody who needs
that many credit cards might be a little shaky in the finance
department, so they need to keep bouncing from card to card.

I would genuinely like KNOWLEDGEABLE input on whether
this philosophy of the rating orgs. is valid. (Personally, I stick to
about 2 or 3 -- why more?)

BTW: Doesn't the above message echo some of the attitude
that caused the sub-prime housing bust, which is now affecting
economies around the world? IOW, extend credit promiscuously?



Posted by djay on May 3, 2008, 1:49 pm

>
>>@news.infowest.com:
>>
>>> The best revenge is to cost them what they value most. Time.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>This works at the post office, too. I kept getting pre-approved credit
>>card apps from JP Morgan-Chase Bank, platinum business cards. I sent two
>>back saying no and take me off the list, but they persisted. So, I
>>started sending them in to see if they'd really send me more cards. (I
>>already have one.) They kept sending them and sending them. I have 10
>>Chase Business cards, now, all with different numbers on them with really
>>high credit limits....all with 3% cashback and no fees. Every month, I
>>rotate using them to keep them active as you must use them at least once
>>every 12 months to keep them active. I can now afford open heart surgery
>>at the best hospital in the country with the highest priced vampires.
>>
>>So far, noone as questioned why I have so many Chase cards.....stupid?
>>Them or me? The cost me nothing as I always pay off the bill...no
>>interest, no charges.
>>
>>One hand has no idea what another hand is doing in big corporations.....
>
> It's my understanding -- open to correction -- that applying for many
> credit cards is detrimental to one's credit rating. The thinking of
> the Big Three rating organizations is that somebody who needs
> that many credit cards might be a little shaky in the finance
> department, so they need to keep bouncing from card to card.
>
> I would genuinely like KNOWLEDGEABLE input on whether
> this philosophy of the rating orgs. is valid. (Personally, I stick to
> about 2 or 3 -- why more?)
>
> BTW: Doesn't the above message echo some of the attitude
> that caused the sub-prime housing bust, which is now affecting
> economies around the world? IOW, extend credit promiscuously?
>
>

Yes you are correct in what you posted. Opening them isn't a huge deal it's
when you close them that you have trouble with your credit score. Each
credit card carries its separate revolving credit account (of course) and
the debt to credit ratio is a good thing (if you always pay off the cards at
the end of the month - shows responsibility blah blah blah). However when
you decide to close several arbitrarily it shows a changed (negative) debt
to credit ratio and your FICO score drops like a bomb.



Posted by Larry on May 3, 2008, 6:57 pm

> However when
> you decide to close several arbitrarily it shows a changed (negative)
> debt to credit ratio and your FICO score drops like a bomb.
>
>

All this assumes, of course, that you CARE about what "they", the
fractional bankers, think about you. As I don't care, any more, and
haven't since 1991 when I finally walked out of the debt trap into the
clear air, it doesn't really matter.

They DID, beg me to take them, understand....(c;


Posted by on May 3, 2008, 8:30 pm

>
>> However when
>> you decide to close several arbitrarily it shows a changed (negative)
>> debt to credit ratio and your FICO score drops like a bomb.
>>
>>
>
>All this assumes, of course, that you CARE about what "they", the
>fractional bankers, think about you. As I don't care, any more, and
>haven't since 1991 when I finally walked out of the debt trap into the
>clear air, it doesn't really matter.
>
>They DID, beg me to take them, understand....(c;

Listen, I hate those miserable bastards as much as the next person,
but let's be realistic: If you have responsibilities toward others --
family, relatives, whatever -- you have to kiss the credit folks' ***
in order to get a good interest rate in case you need an emergency
loan for medical or other reasons, or you want to buy a house, or...

I think it's sickening that they base their ****ing scores on
mechanical data that don't necessarily reflect the borrower's
true repayment status, but who said life is fair!

Since you say you're staying out of the game, more power to you!
How anybody survives in today's America w/o borrowing is a source for
wonderment and admiration.

Aspasia

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