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Re: DTV Converters and Info Jean 03-09-2008
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Posted by Jean on March 9, 2008, 11:23 am
| I saw that they finally have the DTV converters in the stores. I
| noticed last week a thread on here about them. Someone said that they
| could not get the analog signal now, at least not without some wiring
| changes to the antenna connections. I seem to have lost the thread on
| here, so I am starting a new one.
|
| I just signed up for my coupons. They expire after 90days, so I
| wanted to make sure the stores had the converters in stock first. I
| saw them at Walmart. The 4 stores that carry them are Walmart, Best
| Buy, Radio Shack, and Circuit City.
|
| While looking at all the info, I found the list of approved brands.
| Some of them WILL pass the analog signal as well as the digital. Here
| is the exact copied list from their site. Those with a star "*" will
| pass the analog signal. I definately want one of them. (The list is
| below). Walmart only had two of them. Magnavox and RCA.
|
| I hope this list helps others.
|
| Now, I have some questions.
| Has anyone found an online source that tells the features and rates
| them? Or what about "Consumer Reports" or some such thing?
| Please post if you find anything......
|
| One other question. I noticed when I signed up online they did not
| ask me for my email address, just name and mailing address, and what
| type of tv reception I have. My reason for asking this is because I
| need to sign my mother up to get the coupons. She's elderly, and not
| able to go to stores anymore. She does not have a computer or
| understand any of this sort of thing. In fact when I told her she got
| all upset and thought she would be without tv. She lives quite a
| distance from me. so I will have to get her coupons, and buy and
| install it for her. I was wondering if anyone knew if they track our
| URL when we sign up, because I will have to do that for her. Of
| course I will use her name and address, so it's just the URL tracking
| that could be a problem. Anyone know?
|
| Here's the list. As I said, those with a "*" are for both DTV and
| Analog. (If anyone sees those models, please say what store you found
| them, because I live in a rural area and do not have access to any of
| those stores except Walmart, and will have to travel considerable
| distance to get to them.
|
| ------
....snip


From AVSFORUM tests and a Consumer Reports blog, the 4 converters currently
available rank as follows in terms of reception (with "1" being best):
1) Zenith - available at Circuit City & possibly Radio Shack
2) Insignia - should be the same as Zenith, available at Best Buy
3) Magnavox - Walmart
4) RCA - Walmart

I'll be buying based on digital reception capabilities - it doesn't make
long-term sense to buy a box with analog pass-through (which will be
useless in less than a year) if it cannot receive digital signals well.

Jean


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Posted by on March 9, 2008, 11:49 am
>
> | I saw that they finally have the DTV converters in the stores. =A0I
> | noticed last week a thread on here about them. =A0Someone said that they=

> | could not get the analog signal now, at least not without some wiring
> | changes to the antenna connections. =A0I seem to have lost the thread on=

> | here, so I am starting a new one.
> |
> | I just signed up for my coupons. =A0They expire after 90days, so I
> | wanted to make sure the stores had the converters in stock first. =A0I
> | saw them at Walmart. =A0The 4 stores that carry them are Walmart, Best
> | Buy, Radio Shack, and Circuit City.
> |
> | While looking at all the info, I found the list of approved brands.
> | Some of them WILL pass the analog signal as well as the digital. =A0Here=

> | is the exact copied list from their site. =A0Those with a star "*" will
> | pass the analog signal. =A0I definately want one of them. =A0(The list i=
s
> | below). =A0Walmart only had two of them. =A0Magnavox and RCA.
> |
> | I hope this list helps others.
> |
> | Now, I have some questions.
> | Has anyone found an online source that tells the features and rates
> | them? =A0Or what about "Consumer Reports" or some such thing?
> | Please post if you find anything......
> |
> | One other question. =A0I noticed when I signed up online they did not
> | ask me for my email address, just name and mailing address, and what
> | type of tv reception I have. =A0My reason for asking this is because I
> | need to sign my mother up to get the coupons. =A0She's elderly, and not
> | able to go to stores anymore. =A0She does not have a computer or
> | understand any of this sort of thing. =A0In fact when I told her she got=

> | all upset and thought she would be without tv. =A0She lives quite a
> | distance from me. so I will have to get her coupons, and buy and
> | install it for her. =A0I was wondering if anyone knew if they track our
> | URL when we sign up, because I will have to do that for her. =A0Of
> | course I will use her name and address, so it's just the URL tracking
> | that could be a problem. =A0Anyone know?
> |
> | Here's the list. =A0As I said, those with a "*" are for both DTV and
> | Analog. =A0(If anyone sees those models, please say what store you found=

> | them, because I live in a rural area and do not have access to any of
> | those stores except Walmart, and will have to travel considerable
> | distance to get to them.
> |
> | ------
> =A0....snip
>
> From AVSFORUM tests and a Consumer Reports blog, the 4 converters currentl=
y
> available rank as follows in terms of reception (with "1" being best):
> 1) Zenith - available at Circuit City & possibly Radio Shack
> 2) Insignia - should be the same as Zenith, available at Best Buy
> 3) Magnavox - Walmart
> 4) RCA - Walmart
>
> I'll be buying based on digital reception capabilities - it doesn't make
> long-term sense to buy a box with analog pass-through (which will be
> useless in less than a year) if it cannot receive digital signals well.
>
> Jean

To answer the last part of the question, regarding tracking url's for
the rebate forms, I doubt anyone knows for sure. But I'd wager
99.999% that they don't. It makes sense to track name and address
because that is how they must be distributed and limited by law. I
can't imagine them caring about URL's. It would be a huge boondoggle
and has nothing to do with who gets what.

Posted by Tony Sivori on March 9, 2008, 2:04 pm
Jean wrote:

> From AVSFORUM tests and a Consumer Reports blog, the 4 converters
> currently available rank as follows in terms of reception (with "1"
> being best): 1) Zenith - available at Circuit City & possibly Radio
> Shack 2) Insignia - should be the same as Zenith, available at Best Buy
> 3) Magnavox - Walmart
> 4) RCA - Walmart

Could you post the links? I checked the avsforum site and didn't see any
front page links to the review.

--
Tony Sivori


Posted by Anthona on March 9, 2008, 3:05 pm
> Jean wrote:
> > From AVSFORUM tests and a Consumer Reports blog, the 4 converters
> > currently available rank as follows in terms of reception (with "1"
> > being best): 1) Zenith - available at Circuit City & possibly Radio
> > Shack 2) Insignia - should be the same as Zenith, available at Best Buy
> > 3) Magnavox - Walmart
> > 4) RCA - Walmart
>
> Could you post the links? I checked the avsforum site and didn't see any
> front page links to the review.
>
> --
> Tony Sivori

I don't understand i thought the whole idea of these converters were
to transfer digitally channels through an ota ( analog antennas )..why
would they make the issue more confusing by making converters minus
the anolog connections?

Posted by Jim Yanik on March 9, 2008, 9:04 pm
letterman@invalid.com wrote in

> wrote:
>
>>> Jean wrote:
>>> > From AVSFORUM tests and a Consumer Reports blog, the 4 converters
>>> > currently available rank as follows in terms of reception (with
>>> > "1" being best): 1) Zenith - available at Circuit City & possibly
>>> > Radio Shack 2) Insignia - should be the same as Zenith, available
>>> > at Best Buy 3) Magnavox - Walmart
>>> > 4) RCA - Walmart
>>>
>>> Could you post the links? I checked the avsforum site and didn't see
>>> any front page links to the review.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tony Sivori
>>
>>I don't understand i thought the whole idea of these converters were
>>to transfer digitally channels through an ota ( analog antennas )..why
>>would they make the issue more confusing by making converters minus
>>the anolog connections?
>
> There are currently some legal issues involving this. The change in
> 2009 is ONLY for the high power stations. Low power ones have until
> at least 2012 to change. These are mostly in rural areas, but some
> are stations like PBS. It was stupid to make them without passing the
> Analog signal. Until the change, we have to either keep swapping the
> antenna cable, or just accept one or the other. A simple switch on
> the convertor would have solved that. I might modify mine by adding a
> switch if I cant find one of the ones that can be used both ways. The
> other option is to use the converter for DTV and use a VCR tuner for
> analog via the AV inputs. Of course if you want to record from a DTV
> signal, that would mean changing cables again. Either way, it's real
> inconvenient and stupid. Here are some articles about the problem.
>
> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i
> d5388aa9b5187ee73cde3cb9688f860e?pn=2
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/ptech/02/19/digital.tv.ap
>
>

I noticed today that when I changed my TV from Ch.3 converter output to
Ch.9,that the analog station was displayed,but very snowy compared to usual
reception. the same happens for other channels.

Magnavox TB100MW9 converter. The MG9 has analog pass-thru.
It's probably just an input relay and front panel switch that's the
difference.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

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