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Re: Dehumidifier with hose connection that actually works ("LG" brand from HD doesn't) Fred 08-14-2006
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Posted by Fred on August 14, 2006, 9:37 am


Jonathan Kamens wrote:

> I just bought an "LG" dehumidifier from The Home Depot (yeah, yeah, I
> know, buying from HD is always a mistake). The box claimed that it had
> a threaded hose connection, but when I opened it up, I discovered that
> what it has instead is a disconnected plastic pipe, about nine inches
> long, with threads at one end and narrower at the other end.

Sears models are also currently made by LG. Other names may be as well.

>
>
> To use a hose, you're supposed to (a) punch out the cut-out in the back
> of the dehumidifier about a foot from the bottom, (b) screw the plastic
> pipe into a hose, (c) insert the pipe into the cut-out hole in the back
> far enough for the other end to enclose the plastic pipe that the water
> drips out of, and (d) "lock" the pipe into place with a couple of
> plastic tabs sticking out of it.
>
> Of course, it doesn't work, for many reasons, including:
>
> * The plastic tabs are just barely enough to hold the pipe in place
> when a hose is attached to it and putting weight on it. You have to
> get everything Exactly Right to get it to stay, and even the slightest
> jostle can dislodge it. Furthermore, it's obvious that over time, the
> plastic tabs will mold to the position they're wedged into and thus
> stop applying pressure, at which point they'll completely stop holding
> the pipe in place.
>
> * The pipe is horizontal, which means that you need to tilt the
> humidifier slightly backwards to have any chance at all of water
> running into the hose, as opposed to running into the pipe and
> immediately running back out into the bucket beneath the water outlet.
>
> * The pipe attaches right where the water drips out, not at the bottom
> of the bucket, which means that there's no water pressure to force the
> water into the hose. As a result, it doesn't actually go into the
> hose; it instead drips back out into the bucket or (worse) finds some
> other avenue of escape and runs all over the floor.

To be fair, there wouldn't be any "water pressure" if the outlet was at the
bucket bottom either, for the simple reason that if the water's immediately
going out the tube, it's not collecting anywhere to create any pressure via
pascal's law and gravity.

I believe they put the outlet higher up rather than at the bucket bottom so
that the humdifier could be used with a hose while sitting on the floor.
If the outlet was at the bottom of the bucket, you would have to have the
unit up higher to make room for the hose underneath. Also if the outlet
was on the side of the bucket, some quantity of water would remain in the
bucket at all times, leading to stagnant water, bacteria, mold problems,
re-evaporating back into the air thereby reducing efficiency, etc.




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Posted by Art on August 14, 2006, 10:24 pm
Mine is built like that and it hasn't gotten dislodged. You don't have to
worry about the plastic fingers holding it in place wearing out in time
because the crap dehumidifiers won't last long enuf for that to happen. A
good dehumidifier cost $500 a decade ago. The current crop cost $200. If
they last 3 years you are lucky. That is why they eliminated the 5 year
refrigeration system warranty.


>
>
> Jonathan Kamens wrote:
>
>> I just bought an "LG" dehumidifier from The Home Depot (yeah, yeah, I
>> know, buying from HD is always a mistake). The box claimed that it had
>> a threaded hose connection, but when I opened it up, I discovered that
>> what it has instead is a disconnected plastic pipe, about nine inches
>> long, with threads at one end and narrower at the other end.
>
> Sears models are also currently made by LG. Other names may be as well.
>
>>
>>
>> To use a hose, you're supposed to (a) punch out the cut-out in the back
>> of the dehumidifier about a foot from the bottom, (b) screw the plastic
>> pipe into a hose, (c) insert the pipe into the cut-out hole in the back
>> far enough for the other end to enclose the plastic pipe that the water
>> drips out of, and (d) "lock" the pipe into place with a couple of
>> plastic tabs sticking out of it.
>>
>> Of course, it doesn't work, for many reasons, including:
>>
>> * The plastic tabs are just barely enough to hold the pipe in place
>> when a hose is attached to it and putting weight on it. You have to
>> get everything Exactly Right to get it to stay, and even the slightest
>> jostle can dislodge it. Furthermore, it's obvious that over time, the
>> plastic tabs will mold to the position they're wedged into and thus
>> stop applying pressure, at which point they'll completely stop holding
>> the pipe in place.
>>
>> * The pipe is horizontal, which means that you need to tilt the
>> humidifier slightly backwards to have any chance at all of water
>> running into the hose, as opposed to running into the pipe and
>> immediately running back out into the bucket beneath the water outlet.
>>
>> * The pipe attaches right where the water drips out, not at the bottom
>> of the bucket, which means that there's no water pressure to force the
>> water into the hose. As a result, it doesn't actually go into the
>> hose; it instead drips back out into the bucket or (worse) finds some
>> other avenue of escape and runs all over the floor.
>
> To be fair, there wouldn't be any "water pressure" if the outlet was at
> the
> bucket bottom either, for the simple reason that if the water's
> immediately
> going out the tube, it's not collecting anywhere to create any pressure
> via
> pascal's law and gravity.
>
> I believe they put the outlet higher up rather than at the bucket bottom
> so
> that the humdifier could be used with a hose while sitting on the floor.
> If the outlet was at the bottom of the bucket, you would have to have the
> unit up higher to make room for the hose underneath. Also if the outlet
> was on the side of the bucket, some quantity of water would remain in the
> bucket at all times, leading to stagnant water, bacteria, mold problems,
> re-evaporating back into the air thereby reducing efficiency, etc.
>
>
>



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