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Re: Electrically conductive garden hose Jim Redelfs 05-18-2008
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Posted by Jim Redelfs on May 18, 2008, 10:27 am
letterman@invalid.com wrote:

> HOW IN THE HECK CAN RUBBER CONDUCT ELECTRICITY ?

It can't/doesn't.

> Therefore, the rubber itself is conductive. WTF??????

I suggest that, in the past, you have simply been LUCKY that your wet,
plastic hose hasn't transmitted a shock.

The rubber hose was probably wet and/or full of water which WILL conduct
electricity. Perhaps you were wearing different shoes, boots or
overshoes when you got nailed.

Just like your livestock has learned to avoid the wire, you have learned
to NOT allow the hose (rubber or otherwise) to contact the working fence
wire. Good luck although I don't think you'll need it: Once is enough
to learn about the effects of a fencer.

Also, ensure the fencer is properly grounded. Happy feeding.
--
:)
JR

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Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on May 18, 2008, 10:33 am

> letterman@invalid.com wrote:
>
>> HOW IN THE HECK CAN RUBBER CONDUCT ELECTRICITY ?
>
> It can't/doesn't.
>

> HOW IN THE HECK CAN RUBBER CONDUCT ELECTRICITY ?

The black of a black rubber hose is carbon and carbon is a conductor,
in fact the first light bulb filaments were carbon. I might add that a lot
of things can go into the mix used to make the rubber.

Joseph Meehan

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Good to have expert opinions on these matters.




Posted by Joseph Meehan on May 18, 2008, 2:53 pm
> letterman@invalid.com wrote:
>
>> HOW IN THE HECK CAN RUBBER CONDUCT ELECTRICITY ?
>
> It can't/doesn't.
>
>> Therefore, the rubber itself is conductive. WTF??????
>
> I suggest that, in the past, you have simply been LUCKY that your wet,
> plastic hose hasn't transmitted a shock.
>
> The rubber hose was probably wet and/or full of water which WILL conduct
> electricity.

Pure water is a very poor conductor. Salt water is at least a fair
conductor. Other things dissolved in water can increase its conductivity as
well.

Pure water has a very high resistivity, but it is finite. The value is
2.5x10^+5 ohm meters at 20C. and 1 atm pressure. In contrast, liquid mercury
has a resistivity of 9.58x10^-7

Rubber is usually a very good insulator (high resistance) but as noted,
rubber hoses are seldom all rubber. Rubber is not naturally black. Carbon
black is added to improve resistance to sun light in products like tyres and
hoses.



> Perhaps you were wearing different shoes, boots or
> overshoes when you got nailed.
>
> Just like your livestock has learned to avoid the wire, you have learned
> to NOT allow the hose (rubber or otherwise) to contact the working fence
> wire. Good luck although I don't think you'll need it: Once is enough
> to learn about the effects of a fencer.
>
> Also, ensure the fencer is properly grounded. Happy feeding.
> --
> :)
> JR


--
Joseph Meehan

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