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Re: Getting lawn mower going again... Kicking Bird 03-26-2007
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Posted by Kicking Bird on March 26, 2007, 5:55 pm


> I'm embarrassed to admit that I didn't do right by my lawn mower last
> Fall and just left it in the garage over the winter without doing any
> winter prep. It's warm enough today that I thought I'd drag it out and
> see if I could start it, and I couldn't after priming the engine and a
> few quick on the rope. What should I do at this point? The lawn mower
> is a Murray with a 4-stroke engine (model 20617A for those that care).
> I bought it used and didn't get a manual or anything like that with it.
>
> As a follow up, what's the right way to put this machine away for the
> winter?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> -Lotofun

For starters, dump the gas in the tank and in the can. Then drain the
carburetor-- there's probably a drain screw in the bottom of the float bowl.
If not, just remove the big screw in the bottom of the float bowl and the
bowl will lower. Actually, you probably want to pull the bowl anyway and
spray everything with carb/choke cleaner ($4.00 at Wal-Mart). Also drain and
replace the engine oil- go to engine mfr's website to see the weight of oil
to use. If no info, it's hard to go wrong with 10W30.

While you're at Wally's pick up a can of starter fluid to spray at the air
cleaner right before you make your first start attempt. Also, remove and
clean/replace the air cleaner. Also remove the spark plug. You can clean/gap
it to save money or buy/install a new one. Do the plug last because you'll
want to put a shot of starting fluid in the spark plug hole right before you
reinstall it and do your start.

Buy a can of fresh gas, fill the tank, set the choke, press the primer bulb
and she should start.

At the end of the season, do all the maintenance I mentioned above-- except
for the starting fluid of course.



Posted by Ulysses on March 26, 2007, 7:03 pm



> > I'm embarrassed to admit that I didn't do right by my lawn mower last
> > Fall and just left it in the garage over the winter without doing any
> > winter prep. It's warm enough today that I thought I'd drag it out and
> > see if I could start it, and I couldn't after priming the engine and a
> > few quick on the rope. What should I do at this point? The lawn mower
> > is a Murray with a 4-stroke engine (model 20617A for those that care).
> > I bought it used and didn't get a manual or anything like that with it.
> >
> > As a follow up, what's the right way to put this machine away for the
> > winter?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > -Lotofun
>
> For starters, dump the gas in the tank and in the can. Then drain the
> carburetor-- there's probably a drain screw in the bottom of the float
bowl.
> If not, just remove the big screw in the bottom of the float bowl and the
> bowl will lower. Actually, you probably want to pull the bowl anyway and
> spray everything with carb/choke cleaner ($4.00 at Wal-Mart). Also drain
and
> replace the engine oil- go to engine mfr's website to see the weight of
oil
> to use. If no info, it's hard to go wrong with 10W30.
>
> While you're at Wally's pick up a can of starter fluid to spray at the air
> cleaner right before you make your first start attempt. Also, remove and
> clean/replace the air cleaner. Also remove the spark plug. You can
clean/gap
> it to save money or buy/install a new one. Do the plug last because you'll
> want to put a shot of starting fluid in the spark plug hole right before
you
> reinstall it and do your start.
>
> Buy a can of fresh gas, fill the tank, set the choke, press the primer
bulb
> and she should start.
>
> At the end of the season, do all the maintenance I mentioned above--
except
> for the starting fluid of course.
>
>

One other thing that I do to mine is add some Sta-Bil (gasoline stabilizer)
to that last tank of gas at the end of summer/fall and then do all the stuff
Kicking Bird said.



Posted by Srgnt Billko on March 26, 2007, 7:59 pm



>> I'm embarrassed to admit that I didn't do right by my lawn mower last
>> Fall and just left it in the garage over the winter without doing any
>> winter prep. It's warm enough today that I thought I'd drag it out and
>> see if I could start it, and I couldn't after priming the engine and a
>> few quick on the rope. What should I do at this point? The lawn mower
>> is a Murray with a 4-stroke engine (model 20617A for those that care).
>> I bought it used and didn't get a manual or anything like that with it.
>>
>> As a follow up, what's the right way to put this machine away for the
>> winter?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> -Lotofun
>
> For starters, dump the gas in the tank and in the can. Then drain the
> carburetor-- there's probably a drain screw in the bottom of the float
> bowl. If not, just remove the big screw in the bottom of the float bowl
> and the bowl will lower. Actually, you probably want to pull the bowl
> anyway and spray everything with carb/choke cleaner ($4.00 at Wal-Mart).
> Also drain and replace the engine oil- go to engine mfr's website to see
> the weight of oil to use. If no info, it's hard to go wrong with 10W30.
>
> While you're at Wally's pick up a can of starter fluid to spray at the air
> cleaner right before you make your first start attempt. Also, remove and
> clean/replace the air cleaner. Also remove the spark plug. You can
> clean/gap it to save money or buy/install a new one. Do the plug last
> because you'll want to put a shot of starting fluid in the spark plug hole
> right before you reinstall it and do your start.
>
> Buy a can of fresh gas, fill the tank, set the choke, press the primer
> bulb and she should start.
>

All sounds good to me except starter fluid can easily damage these cheap
engines. If the primer bulb is working you shouldn't need starter fluid.
The primers are connected by very small gas line and they tend to fail
easily. Is there a gas shut-off valve ? If so make sure it is open. If my
small engines don't fire after the first few pulls I take the cap off the
gas tank, press my lips tight inside the opening, and blow as hard as I
can - then try to prime and start again.



> At the end of the season, do all the maintenance I mentioned above--
> except for the starting fluid of course.
>



Posted by on March 26, 2007, 10:02 pm


As for winterization, I'm of the opinion that Sta-Bil is a mower's
best friend. I don't believe in draining the carb bowl because even if
you do that, there is still fuel residue in all of the jet orifices
and passages -- and THAT's where gum is the big problem. Just top off
the fuel tank, pull the spark plug and spray some WD-40 in the
cylinder, gap the plug and reinstall it.

But -- I run Sta-Bil in ALL my fuel all summer long, not just for
winterization. That may make a difference. I get gas in a 5g container
and just add the Sta-Bil to that and it lasts the summer and then
some. Never had an issue with year-and-a-half-old gas.


Posted by hallerb@aol.com on March 26, 2007, 10:13 pm


remove air cleaner dump some gasoline in the air intake..... pull like
crazy

or remove plug, pour some gas in plug hole, put plug back in, pull
like crazy...

either of these will likely get your mower going again



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