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Re: Height for rural mailbox SteveB 04-13-2008
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Posted by SteveB on April 13, 2008, 1:19 pm

> Does anyone know what the height is supposed to be for a rural
> mailbox? I live on a rural gravel road and there is a deep ditch next
> to the road. I originally put a wooden post right on the edge of the
> road, but in summer the box just falls over after heavy rains because
> the edge of the road to ditch is so steep that there is nothing to
> really dig in to, unless I put the post hole about 6 feet deep.
> Besides that, the box is actually hanging over the road, and more than
> once a car has hit it. In the winter, the snow plows have broken off
> the post several times, and that just happened this past winter again.
> I drove a steel t-post next to the wooden post and wired it on, but it
> rained hard the other day and I found the mailbox in the ditch again.
>
> I'm completely fed up with fixing that damn thing about 5 times a
> year, which means I have now fixed it around 40 times since I moved
> here 8 years ago.
>
> I just took an 8 foot piece of 2" steel pipe and welded a shelf on
> top, that sticks out 3 feet past the post. This way I can put the
> post down at the bottom of the ditch, and the mailbox will not
> overhang the road. This seems like a more sensible method and it's
> unlikely the plow will hit it. The only problem is that after I
> installed it, the mailbox is only about 40" above the road level. It
> looks low compared to neighbors boxes or what my old wooden post was.
> I'm only in the ground about 16" so I cant raise it any more.
>
> Is there some measurement that the post office requires?
>
> If it's too low, I'll have to either weld on more pipe at the bottom,
> or maybe get a larger pipe and make a sleeve. I plan to put concrete
> around the post, but until I know the acceptable height limits I am
> not going to do that. Right now I just packed some rocks around the
> post in the hole, so I can get my mail. (Its too cold to make
> concrete anyhow). And I suppose if I make a sleeve, the post and
> mailbox will rotate when it gets windy.
>
> Another thought is to put some old tires around the post and fill them
> with concrete, which so far seems to be the best idea I can come up
> with, and then I could raise the post in the ground.
>
> It's just a bad place to put a mailbox. On the other side of the road
> it would be easy since there is no deep ditch, but the P.O. said they
> wont deliver on that side.
>
> Anyone have ideas?
>
> thanks

I have one in my neighborhood that is the old style, has the red flag
raised, has red letters on the side saying "AIR MAIL" and is atop a 30'
pole.

Check with the PO, and they will give you all that. After deciding where it
goes, I suggest a strong one for errant drivers or country boys who like to
take baseball bats to it. I lined my old aluminum one with plate steel and
put it on a 4" pipe with one bys to disguise the pipe. Every year or two
there'd be some new damage, and another graduating class learned the hazards
of mailbox baseball.

Steve



Posted by Neon John on April 13, 2008, 3:57 pm


>Check with the PO, and they will give you all that. After deciding where it
>goes, I suggest a strong one for errant drivers or country boys who like to
>take baseball bats to it. I lined my old aluminum one with plate steel and
>put it on a 4" pipe with one bys to disguise the pipe. Every year or two
>there'd be some new damage, and another graduating class learned the hazards
>of mailbox baseball.

Hehehe. At my first house I did something similar. My mailbox was on the
outside of
a sweeping curve that made it just TOO easy for the punks to drift off the road
enough to mow it down. After about the 5th time, I found some 8" well casing at
the
scrap metal yard. I sunk it about 8 feet into the ground and filled it with
rebar
and concrete. I built a wood veneer around it to make it look like a wooden pole
mount.

Shortly after installation, I came home one day to find cops everywhere and half
a
car in my yard, the other half in a yard on the other side of the road. The
driver
was stinking-ass drunk, was flying and slid sideway into the pole. The wood
veneer
was gone, as was the mailbox (attached with lightweight hardware to allow it to
break
away) but the pole was 100% intact. The drunk was too, unfortunately. Cops all
congratulated me on a well-designed mailbox and anti-drunk weapon.

A friend solved the mailbox baseball problem similar to yours. He lived in a
cluster
with his family and all their mailboxes were in one place on a rack. The leading
mailbox was a dummy, filled solid with concrete. Occasionally he'd see a scar
on the
mailbox and pieces of baseball bat on the ground. Another radius bit the dust
:-)

John

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Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on April 13, 2008, 10:48 pm

>
> A friend solved the mailbox baseball problem similar to yours. He lived
> in a cluster
> with his family and all their mailboxes were in one place on a rack. The
> leading
> mailbox was a dummy, filled solid with concrete. Occasionally he'd see a
> scar on the
> mailbox and pieces of baseball bat on the ground. Another radius bit the
> dust :-)
>

oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!! I'd love to watch that.



Posted by BR on April 13, 2008, 11:21 pm
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>> A friend solved the mailbox baseball problem similar to yours. He lived
>> in a cluster
>> with his family and all their mailboxes were in one place on a rack. The
>> leading
>> mailbox was a dummy, filled solid with concrete. Occasionally he'd see a
>> scar on the
>> mailbox and pieces of baseball bat on the ground. Another radius bit the
>> dust :-)
>>
>
> oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!! I'd love to watch that.
>
>

My rural mailbox is a stand alone, not in a cluster, so I took a medium
and large mail box, arranged them coaxially and filled the space in
between with concrete. The resulting mailbox weighed 100 pounds, so I
had to use a 12" I Beam set upright as the post. I did not need to
have a breakaway installation, since the post sits behind a guard rail.
The mailbox sits forward enough for the letter carrier to put mail in
it without getting out. The first person who tried to play mailbox
baseball with it broke his bat.

It did get damaged once however, when a big truck that was trying to
turn around on the narrow road backed into it, the rear corner of the
truck went over the guard rail. But it just knocked the box off of the
post, all I had to do was host it back up and reinstall it.


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Posted by Oren on April 13, 2008, 5:31 pm
On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:19:59 -0800, "SteveB"

>I have one in my neighborhood that is the old style, has the red flag
>raised, has red letters on the side saying "AIR MAIL" and is atop a 30'
>pole.

I've seen these in the Everglades( grew up in south Florida), Near the
Big Cypress swamp. Actually not far from the nation's smallest Post
Office, Ochopee, FL.

...The post office at Ochopee, Florida, our nation's smallest, is a
regular stop on the south Florida tourist circuit. The building, once
a tool shed, was converted into the post office after a fire in 1953
destroyed the original Ochopee Post Office located in the Gaunt
Company Store...

http://www.karakolina.com/images/2003/20030421_24_02607.jpg

http://www.florida-everglades.com/postoffice.htm


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