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Re: How many therms (natural gas) do you use per day (per month)? Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coo 02-16-2008
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Posted by Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coo on February 16, 2008, 4:28 pm
> I used 120 therms in the past 30 days (about 4 therms per day).
> HOW MANY THERMS DID YOU USE LAST MONTH?

I should note that California alots only 2 therms a day for baseline costs
of about $1.22 per therm (plus 5 cents per therm PPP Surcharge); so
apparently I'm consuming double the natural gas energy California allows
(regardless of home size or number of people) for base rates.

The over-baseline charges are $1.37 per therm plus that same 5 cents per
therm additional charge for poor people (i.e., the California Gas PPP
Surcharge).

Does ANYONE actually use just 2 therms per day for their gas furnace and
hot-water heater for two people living in a small 1,500 sqft house?

Posted by Anthony Matonak on February 16, 2008, 5:14 pm
Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coordinator wrote:
>> I used 120 therms in the past 30 days (about 4 therms per day).
>> HOW MANY THERMS DID YOU USE LAST MONTH?
...
> Does ANYONE actually use just 2 therms per day for their gas furnace and
> hot-water heater for two people living in a small 1,500 sqft house?

I'm only one person but I average about 5 therms a month.
In the winter it's slightly more.

Anthony

Posted by Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coo on February 16, 2008, 6:15 pm
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:14:46 -0800, Anthony Matonak wrote:
> I'm only one person but I average about 5 therms a month.

Wow. 5 therms a month is extremely low, it seems to me.

The US Department of Energy assumes the "average" houshold uses a bit less
than 1/2 a therm a day *just* for the water heater alone!

43,302 kJ/day = 41,045 Btu/day = 0.4105 therm/day

That would be 15 therms a month just for hot water for the average
household in America. I wonder if Europe uses the same amount?

REFERENCES:
Calculating water heater costs for meaningful comparisons
http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/W/AE_water_heater_cost.html
365 × 0.4105/EF × fuel cost (therm) = estimated annual cost of operation

Review of hot water heaters
http://www.consumersearch.com/www/house_and_home/water-heaters/review.html
365 X 0.4105/EF X Fuel Cost (therm) = estimated annual cost of operation

Posted by CJT on February 16, 2008, 6:40 pm
Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coordinator wrote:

> On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:14:46 -0800, Anthony Matonak wrote:
>
>>I'm only one person but I average about 5 therms a month.
>
>
> Wow. 5 therms a month is extremely low, it seems to me.
>
> The US Department of Energy assumes the "average" houshold uses a bit less
> than 1/2 a therm a day *just* for the water heater alone!
>
> 43,302 kJ/day = 41,045 Btu/day = 0.4105 therm/day
>
> That would be 15 therms a month just for hot water for the average
> household in America.

FWIW, we're apparently almost exactly average.

I wonder if Europe uses the same amount?
>
> REFERENCES:
> Calculating water heater costs for meaningful comparisons
> http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/W/AE_water_heater_cost.html
> 365 × 0.4105/EF × fuel cost (therm) = estimated annual cost of operation
>
> Review of hot water heaters
> http://www.consumersearch.com/www/house_and_home/water-heaters/review.html
> 365 X 0.4105/EF X Fuel Cost (therm) = estimated annual cost of operation


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Posted by clams_casino on February 17, 2008, 10:56 am
Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coordinator wrote:

>On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:14:46 -0800, Anthony Matonak wrote:
>
>
>>I'm only one person but I average about 5 therms a month.
>>
>>
>
>Wow. 5 therms a month is extremely low, it seems to me.
>
>The US Department of Energy assumes the "average" houshold uses a bit less
>than 1/2 a therm a day *just* for the water heater alone!
>
>43,302 kJ/day = 41,045 Btu/day = 0.4105 therm/day
>
>That would be 15 therms a month just for hot water for the average
>household in America. I wonder if Europe uses the same amount?
>
>
>


We used 30 therms in both July / Aug (hot water & furnace pilot) - US.

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