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Re: Need new water main - have a few questions Dan_Musicant 01-08-2007
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Posted by hallerb@aol.com on January 10, 2007, 9:54 am


clamps are a hardware store home depot item. cheap and just attach to
pipe in a instant, they clambshell.

i wouldnt trust the current crew, and for a few bucks its not worth the
hassle.......


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Posted by Dan_Musicant on January 10, 2007, 2:28 pm


wrote:

:clamps are a hardware store home depot item. cheap and just attach to
:pipe in a instant, they clambshell.
:
:i wouldnt trust the current crew, and for a few bucks its not worth the
:hassle.......

The same foreman came out today and since he was doing the concrete work
for the sewer job I asked him about the absence of that jumper. He said
he was talking with his supervisor and they would deal with it later
today. He seemed to be saying they don't have the hardware. I won't
sweat it even if they don't do it. I see some jumpers under the house (I
inspected the water main job under the house yesterday), and wires go
off to God knows where. I figure that to use the copper water main as a
ground I'm going to have to install my own clamps anyway. I have at
least 3 places in the house where I want a ground to an outlet:

1. Refrigerator
2. Laundry room appliances
3. My computer room

I think I have a lot of 12 guage wire. Should I really run 10 guage
instead for the grounds?

Thanks!

Dan

Posted by Eric in North TX on January 10, 2007, 10:03 am


> Indeed, they tried to discourage me from thinking of doing it in 1" from
> the beginning. The owner of the company came out and made the estimate
> on the water main replacement. He told me I'd see absolutely no benefit
> and that I should stick with 3/4". So did the other licensed bidder. So,
> I find it odd that basically EVERYONE in the newsgroups would tell me I
> should do 1". I'm still trying to understand it. Anyway, it's done as of
> sundown yesterday and 3/4" it is!
>
> Dan

It is kind of like the 200 amp breaker panel or using 12 ga wire where
14 ga would do. I just sleep better knowing overkill is awake. Usually
the cost difference is small, and the cost of doing it over large,
should it need to be larger in the future.


Posted by Dan_Musicant on January 10, 2007, 2:30 pm


wrote:

:> Indeed, they tried to discourage me from thinking of doing it in 1" from
:> the beginning. The owner of the company came out and made the estimate
:> on the water main replacement. He told me I'd see absolutely no benefit
:> and that I should stick with 3/4". So did the other licensed bidder. So,
:> I find it odd that basically EVERYONE in the newsgroups would tell me I
:> should do 1". I'm still trying to understand it. Anyway, it's done as of
:> sundown yesterday and 3/4" it is!
:>
:> Dan
:
:It is kind of like the 200 amp breaker panel or using 12 ga wire where
:14 ga would do. I just sleep better knowing overkill is awake. Usually
:the cost difference is small, and the cost of doing it over large,
:should it need to be larger in the future.

Yeah, I like the idea of overkill, especially when the price
differential isn't that great and very especially when future
requirements might make "overkill" look like foresight!

Dan

Posted by Dan_Musicant on January 10, 2007, 2:33 pm


wrote:

:> Indeed, they tried to discourage me from thinking of doing it in 1" from
:> the beginning. The owner of the company came out and made the estimate
:> on the water main replacement. He told me I'd see absolutely no benefit
:> and that I should stick with 3/4". So did the other licensed bidder. So,
:> I find it odd that basically EVERYONE in the newsgroups would tell me I
:> should do 1". I'm still trying to understand it. Anyway, it's done as of
:> sundown yesterday and 3/4" it is!
:>
:> Dan
:
:It is kind of like the 200 amp breaker panel or using 12 ga wire where
:14 ga would do. I just sleep better knowing overkill is awake. Usually
:the cost difference is small, and the cost of doing it over large,
:should it need to be larger in the future.


Maybe it's because of the high water pressure here, maybe the fact that
most of the houses in my neighborhood aren't particularly big, or both.
But looking around the neighborhood and inspecting for water service
lines I don't think I spotted a single 1" service -- mostly 3/4", a few
old 1/2". So, that made it easier to not get testy with the 1" thing.
Still, that $600 thing took me aback. I just said "screw it."

Dan

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