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Re: Recommendations for DTV conv. boxes Jerry 05-12-2008
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Posted by Jerry on May 12, 2008, 11:35 am
On May 11, 2:58=A0pm, letter...@invalid.com wrote:
> Can anyone recommend any of the DTV convertor boxes? =A0I just got my
> coupons. =A0Now I have to decide which box I want. =A0I've heard some are
> not real good, and others are mediocre. =A0I'd rather spend a few more
> bucks and get one of the best. =A0I live in a rural area where there
> will not likely ever be cable in my lifetime, and satellite is way too
> costly. =A0
>
> I'd prefer one that allows the current channels (until they are gone),
> too. =A0I heard that many do not.
>
> Thanks to all

You'll find a list of coupon-approved converter boxes here:
https://www.ntiadtv.gov/cecb_list.cfm

The ones marked with an asterisk feature analog passthrough.

Not all analog channels are going away in February, depends on your
location. Repeater stations and low-power stations are not required to
stop broadcasting their analog signal in February. We have a cabin
about 20 miles outside Flagstaff AZ. When the digital switchover
happens, there will be about 3 or 4 digital channels available, and 7
or 8 repeater stations still broadcasting an analog signal that carry
the Phoenix stations. So, we'll have a need for analog passthrough
also.

Here's an interesting website that will tell you what stations will be
available, and where to point your antenna for best reception.
http://www.tvfool.com/index.php?option=3Dcom_wrapper&Itemid=3D29
You just plug in your address or zip code, and you get a list of
available channels, sorted in the order of received signal strength at
your location.
Interesting stuff.

Jerry

Posted by on May 12, 2008, 1:05 pm
On Mon, 12 May 2008 08:35:17 -0700 (PDT), Jerry

>On May 11, 2:58 pm, letter...@invalid.com wrote:
>> Can anyone recommend any of the DTV convertor boxes?  I just got my
>> coupons.  Now I have to decide which box I want.  I've heard some are
>> not real good, and others are mediocre.  I'd rather spend a few more
>> bucks and get one of the best.  I live in a rural area where there
>> will not likely ever be cable in my lifetime, and satellite is way too
>> costly.  
>>
>> I'd prefer one that allows the current channels (until they are gone),
>> too.  I heard that many do not.
>>
>> Thanks to all
>
>You'll find a list of coupon-approved converter boxes here:
>https://www.ntiadtv.gov/cecb_list.cfm
>
>The ones marked with an asterisk feature analog passthrough.
>
>Not all analog channels are going away in February, depends on your
>location. Repeater stations and low-power stations are not required to
>stop broadcasting their analog signal in February. We have a cabin
>about 20 miles outside Flagstaff AZ. When the digital switchover
>happens, there will be about 3 or 4 digital channels available, and 7
>or 8 repeater stations still broadcasting an analog signal that carry
>the Phoenix stations. So, we'll have a need for analog passthrough
>also.
>
>Here's an interesting website that will tell you what stations will be
>available, and where to point your antenna for best reception.
>http://www.tvfool.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29
>You just plug in your address or zip code, and you get a list of
>available channels, sorted in the order of received signal strength at
>your location.
>Interesting stuff.
>
>Jerry

The thing I dont understand about this is that they say we can use our
existing rooftop antennas, which I guess works since others are doing
it. But HOW can that work when these digital channels are using a
different frequency band? I know that the bars on an antenna are
designed for different channels which is determined by their length,
and the longest correspond to the lowest numbered channels (analog),
and the shortest are the high UHF channels. So, how can they work for
the new frequencies of DTV? Wouldn't there be a more optimal antenna
design? I dont know the frequency band for the new DTV, so I am not
sure how this works. After I get my converter, I will connect to my
present rooftop antenna, but I'd like to get the most channels I can
get, so if a new antenna is in order, I'll eventually buy one.

Dan

Posted by Mark Lloyd on May 12, 2008, 1:30 pm
On Mon, 12 May 2008 12:05:13 -0500, dannydee@nospam.com wrote:

>On Mon, 12 May 2008 08:35:17 -0700 (PDT), Jerry
>
>>On May 11, 2:58 pm, letter...@invalid.com wrote:
>>> Can anyone recommend any of the DTV convertor boxes?  I just got my
>>> coupons.  Now I have to decide which box I want.  I've heard some are
>>> not real good, and others are mediocre.  I'd rather spend a few more
>>> bucks and get one of the best.  I live in a rural area where there
>>> will not likely ever be cable in my lifetime, and satellite is way too
>>> costly.  
>>>
>>> I'd prefer one that allows the current channels (until they are gone),
>>> too.  I heard that many do not.
>>>
>>> Thanks to all
>>
>>You'll find a list of coupon-approved converter boxes here:
>>https://www.ntiadtv.gov/cecb_list.cfm
>>
>>The ones marked with an asterisk feature analog passthrough.
>>
>>Not all analog channels are going away in February, depends on your
>>location. Repeater stations and low-power stations are not required to
>>stop broadcasting their analog signal in February. We have a cabin
>>about 20 miles outside Flagstaff AZ. When the digital switchover
>>happens, there will be about 3 or 4 digital channels available, and 7
>>or 8 repeater stations still broadcasting an analog signal that carry
>>the Phoenix stations. So, we'll have a need for analog passthrough
>>also.
>>
>>Here's an interesting website that will tell you what stations will be
>>available, and where to point your antenna for best reception.
>>http://www.tvfool.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29
>>You just plug in your address or zip code, and you get a list of
>>available channels, sorted in the order of received signal strength at
>>your location.
>>Interesting stuff.
>>
>>Jerry
>
>The thing I dont understand about this is that they say we can use our
>existing rooftop antennas, which I guess works since others are doing
>it. But HOW can that work when these digital channels are using a
>different frequency band?

In most (possibly all) cases, they aren't on a different band.

> I know that the bars on an antenna are
>designed for different channels which is determined by their length,
>and the longest correspond to the lowest numbered channels (analog),
>and the shortest are the high UHF channels. So, how can they work for
>the new frequencies of DTV?

AFAIK, there are no new frequencies in use. In this area, channels use
the following (analog -> digital):

7(ABC) -> 10
19(CBS) -> 18
51(Fox) -> 31
54(CW) -> 38 (eff. next year)
56(NBC) -> 22

In no case is a different frequency band used. One is VHF-Hi, all
others UHF.

> Wouldn't there be a more optimal antenna
>design? I dont know the frequency band for the new DTV, so I am not
>sure how this works.

DTV uses exactly the same frequency bands as analog, except for the
exclusion of 700-800MHz (channels 52-69). Fewer than 1/3 of the
channels are excluded.

> After I get my converter, I will connect to my
>present rooftop antenna, but I'd like to get the most channels I can
>get, so if a new antenna is in order, I'll eventually buy one.
>

Most DTV channels use UHF (now limited to 14-51). I used to think it
was going to be all on UHF, but there is one VHF here (channel 10).

>Dan
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