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Re: Redwood Deck or Concrete Patio: What's Less Expensive? raven 06-21-2005
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Posted by on June 21, 2005, 11:41 am
> Decision time. It's either a redwood deck or a concrete patio. Which one
> is less expensive in your part of the USA?

Concrete. But that's less expensive in terms of _my_ time and upkeep.


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Posted by Marty on June 21, 2005, 12:05 pm

>> Decision time. It's either a redwood deck or a concrete patio. Which
>> one
>> is less expensive in your part of the USA?
>
> Concrete. But that's less expensive in terms of _my_ time and upkeep.
>
>
> John
> --
> Remove the dead poet to e-mail, tho CC'd posts are unwelcome.
> Mean People Suck - It takes two deviations to get cool.
> Ask me about joining the NRA.

Well, between your opinions and my finding how out how extensive the rotting
is in the substructureof the existing deck, and seeing a friends patio, I'm
going to switch the existing, but massively damaged redwood deck to a
concrete patio with color and possibly texture. It will still need a fence
around it to keep the dogs in their proper place.

Thanks



Posted by Dan Espen on June 21, 2005, 12:27 pm

>>> Decision time. It's either a redwood deck or a concrete patio. Which
>>> one
>>> is less expensive in your part of the USA?
>>
>> Concrete. But that's less expensive in terms of _my_ time and upkeep.
>>
>>
>> John
>> --
>> Remove the dead poet to e-mail, tho CC'd posts are unwelcome.
>> Mean People Suck - It takes two deviations to get cool.
>> Ask me about joining the NRA.
>
> Well, between your opinions and my finding how out how extensive the rotting
> is in the substructureof the existing deck, and seeing a friends patio, I'm
> going to switch the existing, but massively damaged redwood deck to a
> concrete patio with color and possibly texture.

I see everyone recommending concrete and I wonder why.
I just replaced a concrete patio with pavers.

The concrete was very old (maybe 30 years) and the sections
had settled so that they no longer lined up. I saw no way
to repair them other than rent a jackhammer and have the pieces
hauled away.

I would imagine that my pavers will need some adjustments
after 30 years too. However with pavers, someone can just
lift them up, level the sand bed and put them back.
I'd guess those pavers are good for at least a hundred years.

Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on June 21, 2005, 1:04 pm

> I see everyone recommending concrete and I wonder why.
> I just replaced a concrete patio with pavers.
>
> The concrete was very old (maybe 30 years) and the sections
> had settled so that they no longer lined up. I saw no way
> to repair them other than rent a jackhammer and have the pieces
> hauled away.
>
> I would imagine that my pavers will need some adjustments
> after 30 years too. However with pavers, someone can just
> lift them up, level the sand bed and put them back.
> I'd guess those pavers are good for at least a hundred years.

If the original patio was done correctly, there would be no adjustments
needed. I know of some that are 50 years old, walks at are pushing 100 years
and in excellent condition. Your idea does have merit though. Pavers can
look very nice.



Posted by Dan Espen on June 21, 2005, 3:09 pm

>> I see everyone recommending concrete and I wonder why.
>> I just replaced a concrete patio with pavers.
>>
>> The concrete was very old (maybe 30 years) and the sections
>> had settled so that they no longer lined up. I saw no way
>> to repair them other than rent a jackhammer and have the pieces
>> hauled away.
>>
>> I would imagine that my pavers will need some adjustments
>> after 30 years too. However with pavers, someone can just
>> lift them up, level the sand bed and put them back.
>> I'd guess those pavers are good for at least a hundred years.
>
> If the original patio was done correctly, there would be no adjustments
> needed. I know of some that are 50 years old, walks at are pushing 100 years
> and in excellent condition.

This particular patio consisted of a bunch of 4x8 concrete sections
separated by redwood 2x4s. It looked like they anchored the
2x4x in place by driving nails thru them and embedding the
nail into the concrete.

After living in the house about 10 years I had to replace the
redwood. It does eventually rot. I used pressure treated instead.

Eventually I replaced the whole thing because there was up to a 2 inch
diffference in height between the sections.

I guess the sections were migrating due to frost heaving
and the wide separation between the sections. They were
out of alignment even before I pulled out the rotten redwood.

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