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Re: Redwood Deck or Concrete Patio: What's Less Expensive? raven 06-21-2005
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Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on June 21, 2005, 10:32 pm

>
> This particular patio consisted of a bunch of 4x8 concrete sections
> separated by redwood 2x4s. It looked like they anchored the
> 2x4x in place by driving nails thru them and embedding the
> nail into the concrete.
>
> After living in the house about 10 years I had to replace the
> redwood. It does eventually rot. I used pressure treated instead.

I've seen thing like that. In most cases, they do not have a lot of
reinforcement or are very thick. More like oversized patio blocks. May be
a OK in mild climates, but now where you'd have frost heaves.



Posted by on June 21, 2005, 11:18 pm
I opened this thread to rail on decks and tout the benefits of masonry
in all its forms (no, I'm not a Mason !), and lo and behold, a thread
of pro-concrete posters. My faith in mankind is restored.

Decks tend to look like crap after a few years. My slab has been there
50 years, yes it's a mottled dark gray, but it looks sort of rustic and
requires no maintenance.


Posted by Dan Espen on June 22, 2005, 9:13 am

>>
>> This particular patio consisted of a bunch of 4x8 concrete sections
>> separated by redwood 2x4s. It looked like they anchored the
>> 2x4x in place by driving nails thru them and embedding the
>> nail into the concrete.
>>
>> After living in the house about 10 years I had to replace the
>> redwood. It does eventually rot. I used pressure treated instead.
>
> I've seen thing like that. In most cases, they do not have a lot of
> reinforcement or are very thick. More like oversized patio blocks. May be
> a OK in mild climates, but now where you'd have frost heaves.

Since I broke it up, I know what was there.

No steel. About 4 inches of concrete. Pretty much put
directly on central NJ clay soil. Just a bit of gravel
in some places.

There were definitely chipmunks living under the slab,
but not any obvious signs of dirt being washed out or
excessive tunneling.

I do think that despite the way the nails tied the
redwood to the cement, each slab pretty much moved
on its own. When the ground expands, that stuff
just has to move.

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