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Re: Solar water heating system.. nicksanspam 06-19-2006
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Posted by Robert Gammon on June 19, 2006, 4:47 pm
Gary wrote:
> Robert Gammon wrote:
>> Gary wrote:
>>
>>> Robert Gammon wrote:
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> As interesting as Nick's ideas are, I don't think that you want to
>>>> build a home brew solar hot water heater.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Why not?
>>>
>>>
>> Not in a house that you are in for only a couple of years, i.e. rent
>> or lease. Installing a commercial system, one that you can show hte
>> owner example sof and literature for is more likely to gain
>> acceptance OUTSIDE YOUR HOME COUNTRY.
>>
>> So build it here on a home you own and so long as local building
>> codes allow, so long as homeowner deed restrictions will permit such
>> a device , and MANY now require details plans to be submitted in
>> writing before proceeding - we have to get shingle color approved,
>> exterior pain colors approved and the solar hot water system had to
>> be approved by the HOA BEFORE work began, then go ahead.
>> Just don't dream of doing this in a foreign country WITHOUT getting
>> the homeowner's approval AND consult with local real Estate
>> professionals to get their advice on the homebrew plan.
>>
>> Could be a thing that gets you evicted over there, so be very very
>> careful if you intend to do homebrew in France (or Germany, or Italy,
>> or Spain, Or England.......)
>>
> Hi Robert,
> I guess that makes sense if he is renting, or will not be there for
> long -- not
> sure it thats the case or not?
> Places vary a lot on approvals and covenants -- sounds like you live
> in a very
> picky place. Where I am, the covenants are not very restrictive, and
> no permit
> is required.
> Anyway, was just wondering why you thought it would not be a good idea.
>
Most overseas assignments like this tend to be for two years or less due
to Visa requirements (displacement of citizen workers and all that). He
did not make it clear in posting I saw in alt.home.repair as quoted by
Nick whether this was to be a relatively short term assignment, as most
of these are, or if he is, in effect, emigrating to France, intended to
set up is long term household there, and to eventually renounce US
citizenship to become a French citizen.

> I think that DIY solar water heaters can be a good way to go. The
> cost of
> commercial systems is high -- I think a lot due to low volume
> production. You
> can save a substantial amount of money building your own. I think
> that the
> simple payback on some systems could be as low as a couple years --
> less if
> energy rates keep going up. Not to mention the greenhouse gas benefits.
>
>
DIY solar hot water, hmm

I see a 3-4 person system with 80 gallon heat exchanger tank (so
antifreeze soltuion flows thru the collector for only $2500 plus
installation. Yes, that is more than a gas powered hot water tank,
but will pay for itself quickly. This feeds into a standard hot water tank.


Real Goods Solar, Inc.
Posted by Matthew Maddock on June 19, 2006, 4:56 pm
> Most overseas assignments like this tend to be for two years or less due
> to Visa requirements (displacement of citizen workers and all that). He
> did not make it clear in posting I saw in alt.home.repair as quoted by
> Nick whether this was to be a relatively short term assignment, as most
> of these are, or if he is, in effect, emigrating to France, intended to
> set up is long term household there, and to eventually renounce US
> citizenship to become a French citizen.

I think for whatever reason this was cross-posted! but I removed the
cross posting on my reply because I thought NG cross posting was
frowned upon! I am British, but am moving permanently to France.
Sorry - not used to NG's that are predominantly US read.

Thanks for the replies. Still don't know what to do, but will search
out more local information in France when I move there.

Matt

Posted by Pooh Bear on June 19, 2006, 5:20 pm


Matthew Maddock wrote:

> > Most overseas assignments like this tend to be for two years or less due
> > to Visa requirements (displacement of citizen workers and all that). He
> > did not make it clear in posting I saw in alt.home.repair as quoted by
> > Nick whether this was to be a relatively short term assignment, as most
> > of these are, or if he is, in effect, emigrating to France, intended to
> > set up is long term household there, and to eventually renounce US
> > citizenship to become a French citizen.
>
> I think for whatever reason this was cross-posted! but I removed the
> cross posting on my reply because I thought NG cross posting was
> frowned upon!

Absolutely not where it's on topic for the groups concerned.

Graham


Posted by Jeff on June 19, 2006, 5:40 pm
<snip>

>>I think for whatever reason this was cross-posted! but I removed the
>>cross posting on my reply because I thought NG cross posting was
>>frowned upon!
>
>
> Absolutely not where it's on topic for the groups concerned.

Where it is in bad form is multi posting, where the same or similar
message is posted *seperately* to multiple groups. You want to keep the
groups tied together.

Cross posting can be a good idea when you are not sure what group is
most appropriate or when the most appropriate group is very low traffic.

I'm not sure how on topic this is for alt.home.repair, I think 4 groups
is pushing it. Certainly widely crossposted posts have the most "noise"
in them because the participants don't know each other well, you wind up
with arguments about trivialities. See, I'll probably start one now!!!

Jeff
>
> Graham
>

Posted by FukUSpamer@fukspamer.com on June 19, 2006, 10:12 pm

>
> Absolutely not where it's on topic for the groups concerned.
>
> Graham
>

Gaham:...... you will never stay shut up....ya business or no business but
you muust poke ya fucking nose in every one's business....... after all you
proved Ya Certified Asshole



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