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Re: What is the best way to fix a sagging gate? David Combs 06-29-2008
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Posted by David Combs on June 29, 2008, 10:20 pm
>z wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, or a correctly-placed diagonal brace if one isn't already there.
>>> (High side on latch, low side on hinge; don't put them in backwards
>>> like I see them all the time on TV ...)
>>
>> what's the difference? (innocent question)
>
>If correctly attach a brace from top of the latch side of the gate will
>transfer the load from the latch corner down to the bottom hinge essentially
>creating a small crane like structure within the gate. The weight of the
>gate presses down on the connection points and less likely to move them
>(unlike the opposite scenario below).
>
>If reversed (cross brace from top hinge to the corner below the latch) the
>sagging of the gate pulls on the two connection points and will most likely
>not last very long.
>
>It should be noted that a turnbuckle would be attached from top hinge to the
>corner under the latch as it function is to pull and lift and not push and
>hold as would a diagonal support.
>
>I have built many gates over the years and not one has ever sagged.
>
>

Hey, you know what you're doing, how to fix gates, etc.

This post is NOT a challenge to you in any way -- just
an opportunity for you to say a bit more for all of us
to learn from. Really.



Question: again, what's the difference between the two?

1: compression support between latch and bottom hinge,
(can't be a simple rod, since that might buckle?)

vs

2: tension support (eg small cable or rod? Tension meaning
it won't buckle, so can be small) from top hinge
to bottom of latch-side of gate.


Seems like the force being resisted would be the same
in either case.

If so, then the durability would depend on how the thin rod
or cable -- or the thicker compression-support -- get *attached*
to the gate.

Perhaps something inherently different in durability between
a connection being pulled vs being pushed?


Thanks!

David



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Posted by Calab on June 29, 2008, 10:57 pm

| >If correctly attach a brace from top of the latch side of the gate will
| >transfer the load from the latch corner down to the bottom hinge
essentially
| >creating a small crane like structure within the gate. The weight of the
| >gate presses down on the connection points and less likely to move them
| >(unlike the opposite scenario below).
| >
| >If reversed (cross brace from top hinge to the corner below the latch)
the
| >sagging of the gate pulls on the two connection points and will most
likely
| >not last very long.
| >
| >It should be noted that a turnbuckle would be attached from top hinge to
the
| >corner under the latch as it function is to pull and lift and not push
and
| >hold as would a diagonal support.

| Question: again, what's the difference between the two?

He already explained the difference between the two.

| 1: compression support between latch and bottom hinge,
| (can't be a simple rod, since that might buckle?)
|
| vs
|
| 2: tension support (eg small cable or rod? Tension meaning
| it won't buckle, so can be small) from top hinge
| to bottom of latch-side of gate.
|
|

Are you really asking, "Does one method have advantages over the other?" or
"Are there particular situations where one method is better than the other?"



Posted by David Combs on July 4, 2008, 7:50 pm
>
...
>
>He already explained the difference between the two.
>
>| 1: compression support between latch and bottom hinge,
>| (can't be a simple rod, since that might buckle?)
>|
>| vs
>|
>| 2: tension support (eg small cable or rod? Tension meaning
>| it won't buckle, so can be small) from top hinge
>| to bottom of latch-side of gate.
>|
>|
>
>Are you really asking, "Does one method have advantages over the other?" or
>"Are there particular situations where one method is better than the other?"

Yeah, on reflection, turns out that that's what I was really asking!

Thanks!

David







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