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Re: What the gubamint didn't tell you about digital converters David 04-30-2008
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Posted by David on April 30, 2008, 11:08 am
wrote:

>gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I can't
>>>see this affection for VHS.
>>>
>>>And it should be noted that those tapes will eventually lose their
>>>image. Tapes will glitch up, even if you don't watch them.
>>
>>
>> In my case, it is movies that are on VHS and never made it to DVD.
>> BTW the "losing image" problem is very much over hyped. When I finally
>> trashed my last Beta machine I transferred some tapes I made in 1976
>
>Do you have a lot of those movies on VHS? I stopped buying them when I
>realized you just can't prevent stuff from happening to them. I
>remember exactly what movie it was that made me see it was a hopeless
>collector's investment. It was THE GODFATHER. After a couple of years
>after initially watching the tape I bought, I watched it again, and sure
>enough, there was this glitch in it. I owned at that time about twenty
>movies on VHS. I decided then that the movies wouldn't really last that
>long, and their was the fullscreen formatting, and image quality just
>isn't that good, and I could see on the distant horizon this DVD thing
>coming. So I just stopped investing in the tapes. And to this day,
>DVDs are still a bang, with all the extra features and the commentary
>and so on. It's a movie buff's dream come true.
>
>Anyway, you must have some pretty obscure stuff to commit to holding on
>to them like that. Would you mind if I ask what those titles are? I'm
>just curious.

I'm guessing most of these movies can be found online (illegally,
though as I understand it it's legal if you own a "hard copy"? Or is
that a myth? I'm constantly coming across rare and forgotten stuff on
bittorrent. Maybe they're available legally as well if you do a
thorough search, though that may be cost-prohibitive).

Thinking back, it seems funny to me how quickly I went from being a
frequent vcr user to completely abandoning it (having used it once in
the last three years). It's still sitting there but the actual unit
looks outdated and the tapes seem big and awkward.

Posted by AllEmailDeletedImmediately on April 30, 2008, 4:33 pm

> wrote:
>
>>gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I can't
>>>>see this affection for VHS.
>>>>
>>>>And it should be noted that those tapes will eventually lose their
>>>>image. Tapes will glitch up, even if you don't watch them.
>>>
>>>
>>> In my case, it is movies that are on VHS and never made it to DVD.
>>> BTW the "losing image" problem is very much over hyped. When I finally
>>> trashed my last Beta machine I transferred some tapes I made in 1976
>>
>>Do you have a lot of those movies on VHS? I stopped buying them when I
>>realized you just can't prevent stuff from happening to them. I
>>remember exactly what movie it was that made me see it was a hopeless
>>collector's investment. It was THE GODFATHER. After a couple of years
>>after initially watching the tape I bought, I watched it again, and sure
>>enough, there was this glitch in it. I owned at that time about twenty
>>movies on VHS. I decided then that the movies wouldn't really last that
>>long, and their was the fullscreen formatting, and image quality just
>>isn't that good, and I could see on the distant horizon this DVD thing
>>coming. So I just stopped investing in the tapes. And to this day,
>>DVDs are still a bang, with all the extra features and the commentary
>>and so on. It's a movie buff's dream come true.
>>
>>Anyway, you must have some pretty obscure stuff to commit to holding on
>>to them like that. Would you mind if I ask what those titles are? I'm
>>just curious.
>
> I'm guessing most of these movies can be found online (illegally,
> though as I understand it it's legal if you own a "hard copy"? Or is
> that a myth?

i've wondered that, as well. it used to be you could make a copy for your
own use in order to preserve the original. i'm not sure you can legally do
that anymore. the fbi warning would seem to indicate no.

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Posted by Rod Speed on April 30, 2008, 5:46 pm
>> wrote:
>>
>>> gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:22:05 -0500, Alric Knebel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I can't
>>>>> see this affection for VHS.
>>>>>
>>>>> And it should be noted that those tapes will eventually lose their
>>>>> image. Tapes will glitch up, even if you don't watch them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In my case, it is movies that are on VHS and never made it to DVD.
>>>> BTW the "losing image" problem is very much over hyped. When I
>>>> finally trashed my last Beta machine I transferred some tapes I
>>>> made in 1976
>>>
>>> Do you have a lot of those movies on VHS? I stopped buying them
>>> when I realized you just can't prevent stuff from happening to
>>> them. I remember exactly what movie it was that made me see it was
>>> a hopeless collector's investment. It was THE GODFATHER. After a
>>> couple of years after initially watching the tape I bought, I
>>> watched it again, and sure enough, there was this glitch in it. I
>>> owned at that time about twenty movies on VHS. I decided then that
>>> the movies wouldn't really last that long, and their was the
>>> fullscreen formatting, and image quality just isn't that good, and
>>> I could see on the distant horizon this DVD thing coming. So I
>>> just stopped investing in the tapes. And to this day, DVDs are
>>> still a bang, with all the extra features and the commentary and so
>>> on. It's a movie buff's dream come true. Anyway, you must have some pretty
obscure stuff to commit to
>>> holding on to them like that. Would you mind if I ask what those
>>> titles are? I'm just curious.

>> I'm guessing most of these movies can be found online (illegally,
>> though as I understand it it's legal if you own a "hard copy"?

Yep.

>> Or is that a myth?

Nope.

> i've wondered that, as well. it used to be you could make a copy for your
own use in order to preserve the original.

You are welcome to change the media format of what you own too.

> i'm not sure you can legally do that anymore.

You are legally welcome to change the media format of what you own.

> the fbi warning would seem to indicate no.

No it doesnt.



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