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Re: Whole house phoneline surge protection John Grabowski 06-05-2008
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Posted by Bob F on June 6, 2008, 1:21 pm

On Jun 5, 4:50 pm, letter...@invalid.com wrote:
> My service panel is grounded at the pole, which is right outside the
> house. This is a farm, and that pole provides power to multiple
> buildings. However, the electric service is not the problem, it's the
> phone line. This is a trailer house. When the phone company
> installed the phone line, they grounded the phone line to the steel
> beam under the trailer. Since the trailer beam has cinder blocks
> under it, it's really not grounded at all. Maybe I should add a
> ground rod and connect the phone line. I always thought this was not
> an adaquate ground. ...


AC electric pole earth ground only earths their transformer and its
internal protector. A pole's earth ground does not earth a trailer or
any other building. Each structure must also have its own single
point earth ground.

Teleco installed 'whole house' protector without earthing (only
trailer bonded) means that protector acted as if it never existed.
How to create superior telephone line protection? 'Telco
provided' (demarc or NID) protector must connect short ('less than 10
feet') to the best earthing electrode also used by AC electric, TV
cable, and satellite dish where all wires enter the building. Bonded
to the trailer would explain telephone appliance damage. No telephone
appliance damage for 20 years means a properly earthed NID.

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My neighbor recently got shocked by a lightening strike while using the phone. I
told them the ground on their phone box was not connected. When they called
Qwest, they were told that that was not the phone companies responsibility.

So, you can't count on the phone co. to do it right.



Real Goods Solar, Inc.
Posted by w_tom on June 6, 2008, 7:10 pm
> My neighbor recently got shocked by a lightening strike while using the ph=
one. I
> told them the ground on their phone box was not connected. When they calle=
d
> Qwest, they were told that that was not the phone companies responsibility=
.

Even code says that earth ground must exist. From FCC Part
68.215d(4):
> All building and electrical codes applicable in the
> jurisdiction to telephone wiring shall be complied
> with. If there are no such codes applicable to
> telephone wiring, Article 800 ... and other sections
> of that Code incorporated therein by reference
> shall be complied with.

From the National Electrical Code Article 800.30:
> Location.
> The primary protector shall be located in, on, or immediately
> adjacent to the structure or building served and as close as
> practical to the point of entrance.
> ...
> The primary protector shall consist of an arrester connected
> between each line conductor and ground in an appropriate
> mounting. ...
> Size
> The grounding conductor shall not be smaller than 14 AWG. ...
> Length
> The primary protector grounding conductor shall be as short
> as practicable. ... not to exceed 6.0 meters (20 ft) in length.

Your telco may only earth to provide human safety. To also provide
transistor safety, that earthing must meet and exceed post 1990
earthing requirements. Some of those additional requirements were
provided previously: 'less than 10 foot', separated from other non-
grounding wires (ie safety ground inside Romex cable is not earth
ground), no splices, no sharp bends, etc. Violating these earthing
requirements means a surge may seek earth ground, destructively, via
household appliances (ie modem, answering machine, portable phone base
station).

Posted by David Combs on June 29, 2008, 11:04 pm


Of course I could google, and get a million hits, but
maybe you can give a direct hint:

Any .pdf downloadable with lots of explanations, pictures,
etc, maybe from one govt or another?


Thanks,

David



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