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Re: toilet handle -- bigger problems discovered -- sigh... kzinNOSPAM99 06-24-2005
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Posted by on June 24, 2005, 5:05 pm



> It looks like I have a leak somewhere. The back of the tank fills, then
> empties itself,
> the fills again... this is a fast one.
>
> Any tips on how to isolate the leak? I am so hoping it is INSIDE the
> toilet
> and
> not OUTSIDE in the pipes!
>
> Thanks for any advice

I'll assume that it's not leaking all over the floor or you'd of mentioned
that so it's not the tank bolts.
So it's most likely the donut between the tank and the bowl. These things
kind of disintegrate over time, the rubber gets to the point where it rubs
off on your finger. That will cause the tank to slowly leak into the bowl
which just slowly overflows down the drain without causing the siphon
effect. In the tank the water level goes down to the point that the tank
valve opens up and causes the tank to refill. Sound like what's happening?

Replacing the donut is fairly straightforward although the tank bolts have a
tendency to get very corroded and can sometimes be a bear to remove. WD-40
helps a lot here. I've had to drill and hacksaw them off before.

If you're going to be a diy'er in your new home it's worth getting a book or
three on basic home repair topics. One on plumbing will have instructions
on replacing this.

You can get a kit for replacing this at the despot for about $15 and it has
pretty good instructions with it.

good luck
ml

Posted by Longtime Lurker on June 24, 2005, 5:47 pm


>Sure fire test is to wait til the tank is full and the water fill shuts off,
>put some food coloring in the tank, if the bowl water changes color you've
>got a leaky flapper.

Also, check that the refill tube isn't too far inside the overflow
pipe. That can cause water to siphon out of the toilet.

LL

Posted by Jim Yanik on June 24, 2005, 9:20 pm


>
> It CAN'T be the donut otherwise as with the pipe it would be all over
> the floor, even then it would have to get past the flapper to even
> leak! If there's no water on the floor the only thing it can be is the
> flapper. 5$ fix from any borg. Think about it, the only thing the
> donut does is seal the bowl to the tank, that flapper is above that
> holding the water back in the tank.
>
> Sure fire test is to wait til the tank is full and the water fill
> shuts off, put some food coloring in the tank, if the bowl water
> changes color you've got a leaky flapper.
>
>
>

Or a bad flapper seat.They get crudded up or rot,also.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Posted by Des Perado on June 24, 2005, 10:49 pm
You guys are good! I will try to remember your suggestions the next time my
toilet acts up. An aside, just heard yesterday that where I live
(Vancouver) we will only be able to buy low-flush toilets after September
1st. I have heard that they don't flush nearly as well as the old style
toilets. Hope they have improved the low-flush design by now.
Des

>
>
> >
> > It CAN'T be the donut otherwise as with the pipe it would be all over
> > the floor, even then it would have to get past the flapper to even
> > leak! If there's no water on the floor the only thing it can be is the
> > flapper. 5$ fix from any borg. Think about it, the only thing the
> > donut does is seal the bowl to the tank, that flapper is above that
> > holding the water back in the tank.
> >
> > Sure fire test is to wait til the tank is full and the water fill
> > shuts off, put some food coloring in the tank, if the bowl water
> > changes color you've got a leaky flapper.
> >
> >
> >
>
> Or a bad flapper seat.They get crudded up or rot,also.
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik
> at
> kua.net



Posted by on June 27, 2005, 12:25 am
Stock up now on the old toilets before they are gone. They will be
worth 10 times what you paid for them after September. Buy hundreds
of them. Low flushers are junk. You got to stand there for 5 minutes
to flush them at least 3 times before everything goes down the pipe.


>You guys are good! I will try to remember your suggestions the next time my
>toilet acts up. An aside, just heard yesterday that where I live
>(Vancouver) we will only be able to buy low-flush toilets after September
>1st. I have heard that they don't flush nearly as well as the old style
>toilets. Hope they have improved the low-flush design by now.
>Des
>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > It CAN'T be the donut otherwise as with the pipe it would be all over
>> > the floor, even then it would have to get past the flapper to even
>> > leak! If there's no water on the floor the only thing it can be is the
>> > flapper. 5$ fix from any borg. Think about it, the only thing the
>> > donut does is seal the bowl to the tank, that flapper is above that
>> > holding the water back in the tank.
>> >
>> > Sure fire test is to wait til the tank is full and the water fill
>> > shuts off, put some food coloring in the tank, if the bowl water
>> > changes color you've got a leaky flapper.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Or a bad flapper seat.They get crudded up or rot,also.
>>
>> --
>> Jim Yanik
>> jyanik
>> at
>> kua.net
>


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