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Real estate agent ethics Smitty Two 02-27-2008
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Posted by SteveB on February 27, 2008, 11:45 pm

>
>>
>>>
>>>>I was in email contact with an agent recently, and decided that she was
>>>> not responsive enough to my needs, so I informed her I would look
>>>> elsewhere. That seemed acceptable to her at first, but after a couple
>>>> of
>>>> days of chewing on it, she apparently went off the deep end,
>>>> constructing a vicious written attack that I would characterize as
>>>> rabid
>>>> or psychotic.
>>>>
>>>> I have written to the owner and manager of the Century 21 franchise for
>>>> whom she works, but since she's a top seller for him, I'm not holding
>>>> my
>>>> breath that he'll concern himself too much with my complaint.
>>>>
>>>> So do any of you happen to know whether there is a procedure for formal
>>>> redress of grievances against agents? Are they sworn to uphold some
>>>> sort
>>>> of code of ethics? Does Century 21 censure its agents if they
>>>> misbehave,
>>>> or are individual franchises free to operate however they choose?
>>>
>>> First of all, "Real Estate Agent Ethics" is an oxymoron.
>>> Secondly, all agents or their agencies have to be licensed by the State
>>> they operate in. You have to find the State agency that issues licenses
>>> to real estate brokers and file a complaint there.
>>
>> BFD there. I had a complaint against a lawyer, and wrote to the State
>> Bar. They replied and said that if I wanted to take any action I should
>> hire an attorney. I, of course and dumbly, thought that was their job.
>> Apparently, I was wrong.
>>
>> A complaint to the real estate board in your state may or may not do any
>> good. What do you want from her? Do you just want her to straighten up
>> and not bother anyone else? Maybe a complaint would do that. Don't
>> count on much more. If she's a real b....., it probably won't even
>> bother her.
>>
>> Hire another agent, keep quiet about your experiences with this one, and
>> move on. If you complain to the new one about this one, you could be
>> perceived as a troublemaker, or worse yet, they could be buddies
>> ................
>>
>> Steve
>>
>
> It's people like you that let people like the agent get away with their
> crap. True, the State licensing agency might not do anything in this case.
> But if enough people did complain, they'd take action.

Huh? Say what?

I said, (if you had read it), that complaining to a toothless agency may or
may not get relief. To try it. If they wouldn't do a damn thing about my
lawyer making a $44,000 mistake, a real estate agency might not take any
action on a behavioral issue. After all, the agent did not make a real
mistake that cost anyone any money.

People like me? WTF does that mean? People like me would simply back her
into a corner, slap the living shit out of her, and give her the attitude
adjustment she needed.

Steve



Posted by SteveB on February 27, 2008, 11:47 pm

>
>>
>>>
>>>>I was in email contact with an agent recently, and decided that she was
>>>> not responsive enough to my needs, so I informed her I would look
>>>> elsewhere. That seemed acceptable to her at first, but after a couple
>>>> of
>>>> days of chewing on it, she apparently went off the deep end,
>>>> constructing a vicious written attack that I would characterize as
>>>> rabid
>>>> or psychotic.
>>>>
>>>> I have written to the owner and manager of the Century 21 franchise for
>>>> whom she works, but since she's a top seller for him, I'm not holding
>>>> my
>>>> breath that he'll concern himself too much with my complaint.
>>>>
>>>> So do any of you happen to know whether there is a procedure for formal
>>>> redress of grievances against agents? Are they sworn to uphold some
>>>> sort
>>>> of code of ethics? Does Century 21 censure its agents if they
>>>> misbehave,
>>>> or are individual franchises free to operate however they choose?
>>>
>>> First of all, "Real Estate Agent Ethics" is an oxymoron.
>>> Secondly, all agents or their agencies have to be licensed by the State
>>> they operate in. You have to find the State agency that issues licenses
>>> to real estate brokers and file a complaint there.
>>
>> BFD there. I had a complaint against a lawyer, and wrote to the State
>> Bar. They replied and said that if I wanted to take any action I should
>> hire an attorney. I, of course and dumbly, thought that was their job.
>> Apparently, I was wrong.
>>
>> A complaint to the real estate board in your state may or may not do any
>> good. What do you want from her? Do you just want her to straighten up
>> and not bother anyone else? Maybe a complaint would do that. Don't
>> count on much more. If she's a real b....., it probably won't even
>> bother her.
>>
>> Hire another agent, keep quiet about your experiences with this one, and
>> move on. If you complain to the new one about this one, you could be
>> perceived as a troublemaker, or worse yet, they could be buddies
>> ................
>>
>> Steve
>>
>
> It's people like you that let people like the agent get away with their
> crap. True, the State licensing agency might not do anything in this case.
> But if enough people did complain, they'd take action.

Which planet do you live on? Here on earth, you can't even get the police
to protect battered women and "take action" until they have a toe tag. You
think the real estate board has any teeth?

Can I meet you tomorrow to show you this bridge I have for sale? It's very
reasonable, and there's NO qualifying!

Steve



Posted by Sanity on February 28, 2008, 6:02 am

>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I was in email contact with an agent recently, and decided that she was
>>>>> not responsive enough to my needs, so I informed her I would look
>>>>> elsewhere. That seemed acceptable to her at first, but after a couple
>>>>> of
>>>>> days of chewing on it, she apparently went off the deep end,
>>>>> constructing a vicious written attack that I would characterize as
>>>>> rabid
>>>>> or psychotic.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have written to the owner and manager of the Century 21 franchise
>>>>> for
>>>>> whom she works, but since she's a top seller for him, I'm not holding
>>>>> my
>>>>> breath that he'll concern himself too much with my complaint.
>>>>>
>>>>> So do any of you happen to know whether there is a procedure for
>>>>> formal
>>>>> redress of grievances against agents? Are they sworn to uphold some
>>>>> sort
>>>>> of code of ethics? Does Century 21 censure its agents if they
>>>>> misbehave,
>>>>> or are individual franchises free to operate however they choose?
>>>>
>>>> First of all, "Real Estate Agent Ethics" is an oxymoron.
>>>> Secondly, all agents or their agencies have to be licensed by the State
>>>> they operate in. You have to find the State agency that issues licenses
>>>> to real estate brokers and file a complaint there.
>>>
>>> BFD there. I had a complaint against a lawyer, and wrote to the State
>>> Bar. They replied and said that if I wanted to take any action I should
>>> hire an attorney. I, of course and dumbly, thought that was their job.
>>> Apparently, I was wrong.
>>>
>>> A complaint to the real estate board in your state may or may not do any
>>> good. What do you want from her? Do you just want her to straighten
>>> up and not bother anyone else? Maybe a complaint would do that. Don't
>>> count on much more. If she's a real b....., it probably won't even
>>> bother her.
>>>
>>> Hire another agent, keep quiet about your experiences with this one, and
>>> move on. If you complain to the new one about this one, you could be
>>> perceived as a troublemaker, or worse yet, they could be buddies
>>> ................
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>
>> It's people like you that let people like the agent get away with their
>> crap. True, the State licensing agency might not do anything in this
>> case. But if enough people did complain, they'd take action.
>
> Which planet do you live on? Here on earth, you can't even get the police
> to protect battered women and "take action" until they have a toe tag.
> You think the real estate board has any teeth?
>
> Can I meet you tomorrow to show you this bridge I have for sale? It's
> very reasonable, and there's NO qualifying!
>
> Steve
>

In the past I had to file a grievance with the State Board of Licensing in
NY complaining about a serious error in a land survey that cost me 24000 to
correct. They investigated and found the surveyor in error. I took their
report and sued the surveyor and won my case.
I also filed against a chain pharmacy for making an error in a prescription
for my dog. The prescription read 5mg and they gave 500mg. The store was
heavily fined.
And I do live on planet Earth and if you think you're the ultimate in brains
or experiences, I have a bridge for sale for you.



Posted by SteveB on February 28, 2008, 11:05 am

>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I was in email contact with an agent recently, and decided that she
>>>>>>was
>>>>>> not responsive enough to my needs, so I informed her I would look
>>>>>> elsewhere. That seemed acceptable to her at first, but after a couple
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> days of chewing on it, she apparently went off the deep end,
>>>>>> constructing a vicious written attack that I would characterize as
>>>>>> rabid
>>>>>> or psychotic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have written to the owner and manager of the Century 21 franchise
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> whom she works, but since she's a top seller for him, I'm not holding
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> breath that he'll concern himself too much with my complaint.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So do any of you happen to know whether there is a procedure for
>>>>>> formal
>>>>>> redress of grievances against agents? Are they sworn to uphold some
>>>>>> sort
>>>>>> of code of ethics? Does Century 21 censure its agents if they
>>>>>> misbehave,
>>>>>> or are individual franchises free to operate however they choose?
>>>>>
>>>>> First of all, "Real Estate Agent Ethics" is an oxymoron.
>>>>> Secondly, all agents or their agencies have to be licensed by the
>>>>> State they operate in. You have to find the State agency that issues
>>>>> licenses to real estate brokers and file a complaint there.
>>>>
>>>> BFD there. I had a complaint against a lawyer, and wrote to the State
>>>> Bar. They replied and said that if I wanted to take any action I should
>>>> hire an attorney. I, of course and dumbly, thought that was their job.
>>>> Apparently, I was wrong.
>>>>
>>>> A complaint to the real estate board in your state may or may not do
>>>> any good. What do you want from her? Do you just want her to
>>>> straighten up and not bother anyone else? Maybe a complaint would do
>>>> that. Don't count on much more. If she's a real b....., it probably
>>>> won't even bother her.
>>>>
>>>> Hire another agent, keep quiet about your experiences with this one,
>>>> and move on. If you complain to the new one about this one, you could
>>>> be perceived as a troublemaker, or worse yet, they could be buddies
>>>> ................
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's people like you that let people like the agent get away with their
>>> crap. True, the State licensing agency might not do anything in this
>>> case. But if enough people did complain, they'd take action.
>>
>> Which planet do you live on? Here on earth, you can't even get the
>> police to protect battered women and "take action" until they have a toe
>> tag. You think the real estate board has any teeth?
>>
>> Can I meet you tomorrow to show you this bridge I have for sale? It's
>> very reasonable, and there's NO qualifying!
>>
>> Steve
>>
>
> In the past I had to file a grievance with the State Board of Licensing in
> NY complaining about a serious error in a land survey that cost me 24000
> to correct. They investigated and found the surveyor in error. I took
> their report and sued the surveyor and won my case.
> I also filed against a chain pharmacy for making an error in a
> prescription for my dog. The prescription read 5mg and they gave 500mg.
> The store was heavily fined.
> And I do live on planet Earth and if you think you're the ultimate in
> brains or experiences, I have a bridge for sale for you.

Please explain what you meant by your "people like you" paragraph. I said
basically the same thing you said, and you got all riled up.

Steve



Posted by Sanity on February 28, 2008, 10:48 am

>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I was in email contact with an agent recently, and decided that she
>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>> not responsive enough to my needs, so I informed her I would look
>>>>>>> elsewhere. That seemed acceptable to her at first, but after a
>>>>>>> couple of
>>>>>>> days of chewing on it, she apparently went off the deep end,
>>>>>>> constructing a vicious written attack that I would characterize as
>>>>>>> rabid
>>>>>>> or psychotic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have written to the owner and manager of the Century 21 franchise
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> whom she works, but since she's a top seller for him, I'm not
>>>>>>> holding my
>>>>>>> breath that he'll concern himself too much with my complaint.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So do any of you happen to know whether there is a procedure for
>>>>>>> formal
>>>>>>> redress of grievances against agents? Are they sworn to uphold some
>>>>>>> sort
>>>>>>> of code of ethics? Does Century 21 censure its agents if they
>>>>>>> misbehave,
>>>>>>> or are individual franchises free to operate however they choose?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First of all, "Real Estate Agent Ethics" is an oxymoron.
>>>>>> Secondly, all agents or their agencies have to be licensed by the
>>>>>> State they operate in. You have to find the State agency that issues
>>>>>> licenses to real estate brokers and file a complaint there.
>>>>>
>>>>> BFD there. I had a complaint against a lawyer, and wrote to the State
>>>>> Bar. They replied and said that if I wanted to take any action I
>>>>> should hire an attorney. I, of course and dumbly, thought that was
>>>>> their job. Apparently, I was wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> A complaint to the real estate board in your state may or may not do
>>>>> any good. What do you want from her? Do you just want her to
>>>>> straighten up and not bother anyone else? Maybe a complaint would do
>>>>> that. Don't count on much more. If she's a real b....., it probably
>>>>> won't even bother her.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hire another agent, keep quiet about your experiences with this one,
>>>>> and move on. If you complain to the new one about this one, you could
>>>>> be perceived as a troublemaker, or worse yet, they could be buddies
>>>>> ................
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's people like you that let people like the agent get away with their
>>>> crap. True, the State licensing agency might not do anything in this
>>>> case. But if enough people did complain, they'd take action.
>>>
>>> Which planet do you live on? Here on earth, you can't even get the
>>> police to protect battered women and "take action" until they have a toe
>>> tag. You think the real estate board has any teeth?
>>>
>>> Can I meet you tomorrow to show you this bridge I have for sale? It's
>>> very reasonable, and there's NO qualifying!
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>
>> In the past I had to file a grievance with the State Board of Licensing
>> in NY complaining about a serious error in a land survey that cost me
>> 24000 to correct. They investigated and found the surveyor in error. I
>> took their report and sued the surveyor and won my case.
>> I also filed against a chain pharmacy for making an error in a
>> prescription for my dog. The prescription read 5mg and they gave 500mg.
>> The store was heavily fined.
>> And I do live on planet Earth and if you think you're the ultimate in
>> brains or experiences, I have a bridge for sale for you.
>
> Please explain what you meant by your "people like you" paragraph. I said
> basically the same thing you said, and you got all riled up.
>
> Steve
>

"People like you" refers to people who say it's not worth the effort,
they're not going to do anything. And I got riled up about your attitude
"Can I meet you tomorrow to show you this bridge I have for sale?" Sounded
very pompous and condescending and intitmating that you're smarter than me
or I'm dumber than you.



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