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Real estate agent ethics Smitty Two 02-27-2008
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Posted by SteveB on February 28, 2008, 8:23 pm

>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I was in email contact with an agent recently, and decided that she
>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>> not responsive enough to my needs, so I informed her I would look
>>>>>>>> elsewhere. That seemed acceptable to her at first, but after a
>>>>>>>> couple of
>>>>>>>> days of chewing on it, she apparently went off the deep end,
>>>>>>>> constructing a vicious written attack that I would characterize as
>>>>>>>> rabid
>>>>>>>> or psychotic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have written to the owner and manager of the Century 21 franchise
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> whom she works, but since she's a top seller for him, I'm not
>>>>>>>> holding my
>>>>>>>> breath that he'll concern himself too much with my complaint.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So do any of you happen to know whether there is a procedure for
>>>>>>>> formal
>>>>>>>> redress of grievances against agents? Are they sworn to uphold some
>>>>>>>> sort
>>>>>>>> of code of ethics? Does Century 21 censure its agents if they
>>>>>>>> misbehave,
>>>>>>>> or are individual franchises free to operate however they choose?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First of all, "Real Estate Agent Ethics" is an oxymoron.
>>>>>>> Secondly, all agents or their agencies have to be licensed by the
>>>>>>> State they operate in. You have to find the State agency that issues
>>>>>>> licenses to real estate brokers and file a complaint there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BFD there. I had a complaint against a lawyer, and wrote to the
>>>>>> State Bar. They replied and said that if I wanted to take any action
>>>>>> I should hire an attorney. I, of course and dumbly, thought that was
>>>>>> their job. Apparently, I was wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A complaint to the real estate board in your state may or may not do
>>>>>> any good. What do you want from her? Do you just want her to
>>>>>> straighten up and not bother anyone else? Maybe a complaint would do
>>>>>> that. Don't count on much more. If she's a real b....., it probably
>>>>>> won't even bother her.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hire another agent, keep quiet about your experiences with this one,
>>>>>> and move on. If you complain to the new one about this one, you
>>>>>> could be perceived as a troublemaker, or worse yet, they could be
>>>>>> buddies ................
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's people like you that let people like the agent get away with
>>>>> their crap. True, the State licensing agency might not do anything in
>>>>> this case. But if enough people did complain, they'd take action.
>>>>
>>>> Which planet do you live on? Here on earth, you can't even get the
>>>> police to protect battered women and "take action" until they have a
>>>> toe tag. You think the real estate board has any teeth?
>>>>
>>>> Can I meet you tomorrow to show you this bridge I have for sale? It's
>>>> very reasonable, and there's NO qualifying!
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>
>>> In the past I had to file a grievance with the State Board of Licensing
>>> in NY complaining about a serious error in a land survey that cost me
>>> 24000 to correct. They investigated and found the surveyor in error. I
>>> took their report and sued the surveyor and won my case.
>>> I also filed against a chain pharmacy for making an error in a
>>> prescription for my dog. The prescription read 5mg and they gave 500mg.
>>> The store was heavily fined.
>>> And I do live on planet Earth and if you think you're the ultimate in
>>> brains or experiences, I have a bridge for sale for you.
>>
>> Please explain what you meant by your "people like you" paragraph. I
>> said basically the same thing you said, and you got all riled up.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>
> "People like you" refers to people who say it's not worth the effort,
> they're not going to do anything. And I got riled up about your attitude
> "Can I meet you tomorrow to show you this bridge I have for sale?"
> Sounded very pompous and condescending and intitmating that you're smarter
> than me or I'm dumber than you.

Well, which is it?

My point was clearly stated:

A complaint to the real estate board in your state may or may not do
>>>>>> any good. What do you want from her? Do you just want her to
>>>>>> straighten up and not bother anyone else? Maybe a complaint would do
>>>>>> that. Don't count on much more. If she's a real b....., it probably
>>>>>> won't even bother her.
>>>>>>



Posted by Sanity on February 28, 2008, 8:31 pm

>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I was in email contact with an agent recently, and decided that she
>>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>> not responsive enough to my needs, so I informed her I would look
>>>>>>>>> elsewhere. That seemed acceptable to her at first, but after a
>>>>>>>>> couple of
>>>>>>>>> days of chewing on it, she apparently went off the deep end,
>>>>>>>>> constructing a vicious written attack that I would characterize as
>>>>>>>>> rabid
>>>>>>>>> or psychotic.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have written to the owner and manager of the Century 21
>>>>>>>>> franchise for
>>>>>>>>> whom she works, but since she's a top seller for him, I'm not
>>>>>>>>> holding my
>>>>>>>>> breath that he'll concern himself too much with my complaint.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So do any of you happen to know whether there is a procedure for
>>>>>>>>> formal
>>>>>>>>> redress of grievances against agents? Are they sworn to uphold
>>>>>>>>> some sort
>>>>>>>>> of code of ethics? Does Century 21 censure its agents if they
>>>>>>>>> misbehave,
>>>>>>>>> or are individual franchises free to operate however they choose?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> First of all, "Real Estate Agent Ethics" is an oxymoron.
>>>>>>>> Secondly, all agents or their agencies have to be licensed by the
>>>>>>>> State they operate in. You have to find the State agency that
>>>>>>>> issues licenses to real estate brokers and file a complaint there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BFD there. I had a complaint against a lawyer, and wrote to the
>>>>>>> State Bar. They replied and said that if I wanted to take any action
>>>>>>> I should hire an attorney. I, of course and dumbly, thought that
>>>>>>> was their job. Apparently, I was wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A complaint to the real estate board in your state may or may not do
>>>>>>> any good. What do you want from her? Do you just want her to
>>>>>>> straighten up and not bother anyone else? Maybe a complaint would
>>>>>>> do that. Don't count on much more. If she's a real b....., it
>>>>>>> probably won't even bother her.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hire another agent, keep quiet about your experiences with this one,
>>>>>>> and move on. If you complain to the new one about this one, you
>>>>>>> could be perceived as a troublemaker, or worse yet, they could be
>>>>>>> buddies ................
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's people like you that let people like the agent get away with
>>>>>> their crap. True, the State licensing agency might not do anything in
>>>>>> this case. But if enough people did complain, they'd take action.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which planet do you live on? Here on earth, you can't even get the
>>>>> police to protect battered women and "take action" until they have a
>>>>> toe tag. You think the real estate board has any teeth?
>>>>>
>>>>> Can I meet you tomorrow to show you this bridge I have for sale? It's
>>>>> very reasonable, and there's NO qualifying!
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In the past I had to file a grievance with the State Board of Licensing
>>>> in NY complaining about a serious error in a land survey that cost me
>>>> 24000 to correct. They investigated and found the surveyor in error. I
>>>> took their report and sued the surveyor and won my case.
>>>> I also filed against a chain pharmacy for making an error in a
>>>> prescription for my dog. The prescription read 5mg and they gave 500mg.
>>>> The store was heavily fined.
>>>> And I do live on planet Earth and if you think you're the ultimate in
>>>> brains or experiences, I have a bridge for sale for you.
>>>
>>> Please explain what you meant by your "people like you" paragraph. I
>>> said basically the same thing you said, and you got all riled up.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>
>> "People like you" refers to people who say it's not worth the effort,
>> they're not going to do anything. And I got riled up about your attitude
>> "Can I meet you tomorrow to show you this bridge I have for sale?"
>> Sounded very pompous and condescending and intitmating that you're
>> smarter than me or I'm dumber than you.
>
> Well, which is it?
>
> My point was clearly stated:
>
> A complaint to the real estate board in your state may or may not do
>>>>>>> any good. What do you want from her? Do you just want her to
>>>>>>> straighten up and not bother anyone else? Maybe a complaint would
>>>>>>> do that. Don't count on much more. If she's a real b....., it
>>>>>>> probably won't even bother her.
>>>>>>>
>
>

Hey idiot, do you know what KMA is?



Posted by SteveB on February 29, 2008, 12:30 am

>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I was in email contact with an agent recently, and decided that
>>>>>>>>>>she was
>>>>>>>>>> not responsive enough to my needs, so I informed her I would look
>>>>>>>>>> elsewhere. That seemed acceptable to her at first, but after a
>>>>>>>>>> couple of
>>>>>>>>>> days of chewing on it, she apparently went off the deep end,
>>>>>>>>>> constructing a vicious written attack that I would characterize
>>>>>>>>>> as rabid
>>>>>>>>>> or psychotic.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have written to the owner and manager of the Century 21
>>>>>>>>>> franchise for
>>>>>>>>>> whom she works, but since she's a top seller for him, I'm not
>>>>>>>>>> holding my
>>>>>>>>>> breath that he'll concern himself too much with my complaint.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So do any of you happen to know whether there is a procedure for
>>>>>>>>>> formal
>>>>>>>>>> redress of grievances against agents? Are they sworn to uphold
>>>>>>>>>> some sort
>>>>>>>>>> of code of ethics? Does Century 21 censure its agents if they
>>>>>>>>>> misbehave,
>>>>>>>>>> or are individual franchises free to operate however they choose?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> First of all, "Real Estate Agent Ethics" is an oxymoron.
>>>>>>>>> Secondly, all agents or their agencies have to be licensed by the
>>>>>>>>> State they operate in. You have to find the State agency that
>>>>>>>>> issues licenses to real estate brokers and file a complaint there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BFD there. I had a complaint against a lawyer, and wrote to the
>>>>>>>> State Bar. They replied and said that if I wanted to take any
>>>>>>>> action I should hire an attorney. I, of course and dumbly, thought
>>>>>>>> that was their job. Apparently, I was wrong.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A complaint to the real estate board in your state may or may not
>>>>>>>> do any good. What do you want from her? Do you just want her to
>>>>>>>> straighten up and not bother anyone else? Maybe a complaint would
>>>>>>>> do that. Don't count on much more. If she's a real b....., it
>>>>>>>> probably won't even bother her.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hire another agent, keep quiet about your experiences with this
>>>>>>>> one, and move on. If you complain to the new one about this one,
>>>>>>>> you could be perceived as a troublemaker, or worse yet, they could
>>>>>>>> be buddies ................
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's people like you that let people like the agent get away with
>>>>>>> their crap. True, the State licensing agency might not do anything
>>>>>>> in this case. But if enough people did complain, they'd take action.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which planet do you live on? Here on earth, you can't even get the
>>>>>> police to protect battered women and "take action" until they have a
>>>>>> toe tag. You think the real estate board has any teeth?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can I meet you tomorrow to show you this bridge I have for sale?
>>>>>> It's very reasonable, and there's NO qualifying!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In the past I had to file a grievance with the State Board of
>>>>> Licensing in NY complaining about a serious error in a land survey
>>>>> that cost me 24000 to correct. They investigated and found the
>>>>> surveyor in error. I took their report and sued the surveyor and won
>>>>> my case.
>>>>> I also filed against a chain pharmacy for making an error in a
>>>>> prescription for my dog. The prescription read 5mg and they gave
>>>>> 500mg. The store was heavily fined.
>>>>> And I do live on planet Earth and if you think you're the ultimate in
>>>>> brains or experiences, I have a bridge for sale for you.
>>>>
>>>> Please explain what you meant by your "people like you" paragraph. I
>>>> said basically the same thing you said, and you got all riled up.
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>
>>> "People like you" refers to people who say it's not worth the effort,
>>> they're not going to do anything. And I got riled up about your attitude
>>> "Can I meet you tomorrow to show you this bridge I have for sale?"
>>> Sounded very pompous and condescending and intitmating that you're
>>> smarter than me or I'm dumber than you.
>>
>> Well, which is it?
>>
>> My point was clearly stated:
>>
>> A complaint to the real estate board in your state may or may not do
>>>>>>>> any good. What do you want from her? Do you just want her to
>>>>>>>> straighten up and not bother anyone else? Maybe a complaint would
>>>>>>>> do that. Don't count on much more. If she's a real b....., it
>>>>>>>> probably won't even bother her.
>>>>>>>>
>>
>>
>
> Hey idiot, do you know what KMA is?

Yes. That is when you lose a discussion, and can't come up with any
plausible points of discussion.

You take care.

Steve



Posted by Sanity on February 29, 2008, 4:26 am

>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I was in email contact with an agent recently, and decided that
>>>>>>>>>>>she was
>>>>>>>>>>> not responsive enough to my needs, so I informed her I would
>>>>>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>>>>>> elsewhere. That seemed acceptable to her at first, but after a
>>>>>>>>>>> couple of
>>>>>>>>>>> days of chewing on it, she apparently went off the deep end,
>>>>>>>>>>> constructing a vicious written attack that I would characterize
>>>>>>>>>>> as rabid
>>>>>>>>>>> or psychotic.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have written to the owner and manager of the Century 21
>>>>>>>>>>> franchise for
>>>>>>>>>>> whom she works, but since she's a top seller for him, I'm not
>>>>>>>>>>> holding my
>>>>>>>>>>> breath that he'll concern himself too much with my complaint.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So do any of you happen to know whether there is a procedure for
>>>>>>>>>>> formal
>>>>>>>>>>> redress of grievances against agents? Are they sworn to uphold
>>>>>>>>>>> some sort
>>>>>>>>>>> of code of ethics? Does Century 21 censure its agents if they
>>>>>>>>>>> misbehave,
>>>>>>>>>>> or are individual franchises free to operate however they
>>>>>>>>>>> choose?