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Recondition cordless batteries? Dan_Musicant 04-22-2007
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Posted by Jim Yanik on April 23, 2007, 1:41 pm



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>> >:> I wish there was a way (I'm sure there is) that I could discharge
>> >:> them without using the motor, but maybe it's not a problem. If I
>> >:> knew how, I would build a discharge device, but my electronics
>> >:> savvy isn't great. I'm cross posting this post to
>> >:> sci.chem.electrochem.battery in hopes for some expert advice. :)
>> >:
>> >:There is. Solder a short pair of leads with alligator clips to a
>> >:12v light bulb and clip it across the battery leads. Use a smaller
>> >:bulb, like a dome light, parking light, or tail light.
>> >:
>> >:Red
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>> > Hey, that's a smart idea. It would need to be a DC lamp, I suppose,
>> > and most auto lights would probably work, I'd think. Thanks.
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>> Incandescent lamps don't care whether it's DC or AC applied to them.
>> I have a 12W,12V auto bulb that's used in a Tensor hi-intensity lamp
>> that applies AC volts to it,works just the same.
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>> --
>> Jim Yanik
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> I used to build and fly R/C airplanes. Conditioning NiCad batteries
> is a big deal to these hobbyists since a dead battery in mid-flight
> usually results in a mashed pile of balsa wood and about $500 down the
> drain. Search some of the newsgroups or hobby websites for info and
> good tips on theory and practice of cycling batteries.
>
> --Jeff
>
>

Most drill/driver battery packs do not have terminals one can clip
onto,they have flat contacts recessed to prevent accidental shorting.
One would have to build a socket for the pack to plug into,with contacts to
mate with the pack's contacts. Or cannabalize an old,spare charger for the
socket/contacts.



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Posted by Chris Lewis on April 23, 2007, 2:47 pm



> Most drill/driver battery packs do not have terminals one can clip
> onto,they have flat contacts recessed to prevent accidental shorting.
> One would have to build a socket for the pack to plug into,with contacts to
> mate with the pack's contacts. Or cannabalize an old,spare charger for the
> socket/contacts.

If you're just trying to discharge it a few times, you can get away
with masking, duct or electrical tape putting pressure on a chunk of wire
against the contacts.

The Dewalts I'm familiar with have spade lugs that are easy to clip to.
--
Chris Lewis,

Age and Treachery will Triumph over Youth and Skill
It's not just anyone who gets a Starship Cruiser class named after them.

Posted by Chris Lewis on April 23, 2007, 4:36 pm


> On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 18:47:24 -0000, clewis@nortelnetworks.com (Chris
> Lewis) wrote:

> >
> >> Most drill/driver battery packs do not have terminals one can clip
> >> onto,they have flat contacts recessed to prevent accidental shorting.
> >> One would have to build a socket for the pack to plug into,with contacts to
> >> mate with the pack's contacts. Or cannabalize an old,spare charger for the
> >> socket/contacts.

> >If you're just trying to discharge it a few times, you can get away
> >with masking, duct or electrical tape putting pressure on a chunk of wire
> >against the contacts.

> My kit has a flash light and I can drain a battery that way. I don't
> know if this is good or bad for the battery (18v NiCad)?

As I understand it, if you're going to discharge this way, you want
to stop discharge just as the voltage across each cell is around
1V. Which for an 18V battery is 15V. The lamp should be noticably
dimmer at that point.

Then recharge and repeat.
--
Chris Lewis,

Age and Treachery will Triumph over Youth and Skill
It's not just anyone who gets a Starship Cruiser class named after them.

Posted by Oren on April 23, 2007, 5:05 pm


On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:36:21 -0000, clewis@nortelnetworks.com (Chris
Lewis) wrote:

>> On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 18:47:24 -0000, clewis@nortelnetworks.com (Chris
>> Lewis) wrote:
>
>> >
>> >> Most drill/driver battery packs do not have terminals one can clip
>> >> onto,they have flat contacts recessed to prevent accidental shorting.
>> >> One would have to build a socket for the pack to plug into,with contacts
to
>> >> mate with the pack's contacts. Or cannabalize an old,spare charger for the
>> >> socket/contacts.
>
>> >If you're just trying to discharge it a few times, you can get away
>> >with masking, duct or electrical tape putting pressure on a chunk of wire
>> >against the contacts.
>
>> My kit has a flash light and I can drain a battery that way. I don't
>> know if this is good or bad for the battery (18v NiCad)?
>
>As I understand it, if you're going to discharge this way, you want
>to stop discharge just as the voltage across each cell is around
>1V. Which for an 18V battery is 15V. The lamp should be noticably
>dimmer at that point.

So leaving the flash light switched on over night is not best... no
lamp flicker, light, nada...too much drain on the battery?

>
>Then recharge and repeat.
--
Oren

"I don't have anything against work. I just figure, why deprive somebody who
really loves it."

Posted by Red on April 23, 2007, 5:47 pm



> >As I understand it, if you're going to discharge this way, you want
> >to stop discharge just as the voltage across each cell is around
> >1V. Which for an 18V battery is 15V. The lamp should be noticably
> >dimmer at that point.
>
> So leaving the flash light switched on over night is not best... no
> lamp flicker, light, nada...too much drain on the battery?
>
I've heard that if you completely discharge a battery it is "possible"
that it can recharge with a reverse polarity. May be possible with a
single cell, but I don't think that is possible in a battery pack.
There may be other new reasons for not completely discharging battery
packs, but that used to be the way to prevent ni-cad memory problems.
-Red


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