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Refinishing Red Oak flooring ng_reader 08-15-2005
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Posted by Baron on August 16, 2005, 7:50 pm


>
> If you have enough thickness left on the floors, I'd fill nail holes
> with red oak filler, sand again, stain (even with minwax "natural"
> color stain--it is SO worth it on oak because the grain of oak is so
> wonderful. IMO, just poly-ing oak without stain is a tremendous
> disservice to the wood's look), and then your 3 coats of preferably
> oil-based polyurethane with a fine sand in between each. If you are
> short on time and want lower odor, and still want a rugged finish, try
> Street Shoe brand stuff--very tough, but pricey.
>
http://www.goldenstateflooring.com/finishes.php/basiccoatings/0/streetshoe
>
> Good luck!
>
> Best Regards,
> --
> Todd H.
> http://www.toddh.net/


I thought Street Shoe was very difficult to apply. What was your
experience?




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Posted by Todd H. on August 16, 2005, 8:27 pm



> I thought Street Shoe was very difficult to apply. What was your
> experience?

I used oil-based myself.

The pros I interviewed before I decided to try it myself recommended
the Street Shoe product as a very tough finish without the downsides,
odor and cleanup issues of oil-based poly, so I really can't speak to
application issues I'm afraid.

I was dealing with a house I wasn't living in, so the odor wasn't a
downside, and the cost savings and ending up with a tougher finish had
me go the oil route.

Best Regards,
--
Todd H.
http://www.toddh.net/


Posted by nospambob on August 16, 2005, 8:24 am


Sounds like you used waterbased finish and the water reacted with the
tannins in the oak and stained the wood black. Oxalic acid will
neutralize the black stain then oil based finish can be used. Oil
smells and takes longer to dry though. I'd try nail set and filler
for the holes after oxalic acid treatment. Paint store typically has
wood bleach that is oxalic acid, check the label.

On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 17:20:22 -0400, "ng_reader"

>Well,
>
>I finally went and sanded inside the closet of my 40+ year old home to
>refinish my solid oak floors. It's a red oak, pretty thin - I think 3/8" ,
>and it is in a lot of home around here, I believe.
>
>Here is SE Pennsylvania.
>
>It looks pretty bad. First of all the floor boards were all top nailed, so
>when I sanded down, and then urethaned, the nail holes became quite black.
>It's the closet, so no one will see, but I'll need a better solution for the
>rest of the floor.
>
>I have two choices, I reckon. Either I sand down and use a stain & varnish
>all in one, or I just buff out.
>
>If I stain first, it will have to be dark, so that the nail holes, and any
>other cracks aren't as noticeable.
>
>If I buff out, I guess that *would* be easier, but -- I don't own a
>buffer.....
>
>Just a little disappointed in the finished look.
>
>Does anyone know what I could do to make it look better? Go over all the
>nail heads with some wood putty? Rub some kind of glaze on top before
>urethane?
>
>Thanks for listening...
>
>mr. curious
>
>



Posted by ng_reader on August 18, 2005, 10:38 pm


I reckon you have a point there, bob.

The floors were originally finished 40 years ago, so I would have suspected
oil. But, the builder did it not me, or the original homeowner.

Sort off odd, in that as soon as they laid the wood floor in the foyer they
quickly went over it with linoleum tile. They were using the hard wood floor
to make and record measurements on, funny.

But, to your point, something changed the color of the wood. Could have just
been oxidation from the metal nails, perhaps not nec the finish.

I do like the look of oak, and would like to keep it.

L8r
Ted


> Sounds like you used waterbased finish and the water reacted with the
> tannins in the oak and stained the wood black. Oxalic acid will
> neutralize the black stain then oil based finish can be used. Oil
> smells and takes longer to dry though. I'd try nail set and filler
> for the holes after oxalic acid treatment. Paint store typically has
> wood bleach that is oxalic acid, check the label.
>
> On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 17:20:22 -0400, "ng_reader"
>
> >Well,
> >
> >I finally went and sanded inside the closet of my 40+ year old home to
> >refinish my solid oak floors. It's a red oak, pretty thin - I think 3/8"
,
> >and it is in a lot of home around here, I believe.
> >
> >Here is SE Pennsylvania.
> >
> >It looks pretty bad. First of all the floor boards were all top nailed,
so
> >when I sanded down, and then urethaned, the nail holes became quite
black.
> >It's the closet, so no one will see, but I'll need a better solution for
the
> >rest of the floor.
> >
> >I have two choices, I reckon. Either I sand down and use a stain &
varnish
> >all in one, or I just buff out.
> >
> >If I stain first, it will have to be dark, so that the nail holes, and
any
> >other cracks aren't as noticeable.
> >
> >If I buff out, I guess that *would* be easier, but -- I don't own a
> >buffer.....
> >
> >Just a little disappointed in the finished look.
> >
> >Does anyone know what I could do to make it look better? Go over all the
> >nail heads with some wood putty? Rub some kind of glaze on top before
> >urethane?
> >
> >Thanks for listening...
> >
> >mr. curious
> >
> >
>




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