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Refrigerator Issue. Tad 12-30-2006
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Posted by Tad on December 30, 2006, 6:37 pm


Hi,

I'm not sure if this is the place for this question, but I'm eager to
try.

About two months ago, I came home to my apartment to find a VERY loud
refrigerator and a totally defrosted freezer. I unplugged the unit,
cleaned up the mess, called my landlord, and told him the issue. He's a
nice guy, and ordered a new fridge that very hour. In the meantime
(about thirty minutes later), I plugged the unit back in, and it
started working again. I called my landlord back, and told him, but he
decided to not cancel the order, since my fridge was old anyway, and
clearly unreliable.

So a new one comes, two days later. It's an Avanti FF106W,
Refrigerator/Freezer. I'm delighted, of course, and I buy all new food,
etc. But when I come home the next day, the freezer has defrosted, just
like the old one did, and everything is melting.

I call the landlord, he calls the dealer, they send a repairman (three
days later), and he says the door doesn't fit well, so they have to
order a new one. That comes a week later, the guy who installs it says
he doesn't see why a leaking door would be the problem, but he installs
the new one anyway. The problem continues; the freezer freezes and then
defrosts.

I call my landlord, and say that the fridge still doesn't work. He
calls the place he bought it, insists on a new one.

Here's the thing: the new one came last week, and it does the SAME
THING. It freezes, and then defrosts. It doesn't run loud, the light
always works, but stuff doesn't stay frozen.

My landlord called an electrician. He came and checked everything, but
didn't find any problems. We tried running the fridge, via an extension
cord, off another plug; nothing changed.

Any solutions?

Tad


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Posted by Jeff Wisnia on December 30, 2006, 7:43 pm


Tad wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm not sure if this is the place for this question, but I'm eager to
> try.
>
> About two months ago, I came home to my apartment to find a VERY loud
> refrigerator and a totally defrosted freezer. I unplugged the unit,
> cleaned up the mess, called my landlord, and told him the issue. He's a
> nice guy, and ordered a new fridge that very hour. In the meantime
> (about thirty minutes later), I plugged the unit back in, and it
> started working again. I called my landlord back, and told him, but he
> decided to not cancel the order, since my fridge was old anyway, and
> clearly unreliable.
>
> So a new one comes, two days later. It's an Avanti FF106W,
> Refrigerator/Freezer. I'm delighted, of course, and I buy all new food,
> etc. But when I come home the next day, the freezer has defrosted, just
> like the old one did, and everything is melting.
>
> I call the landlord, he calls the dealer, they send a repairman (three
> days later), and he says the door doesn't fit well, so they have to
> order a new one. That comes a week later, the guy who installs it says
> he doesn't see why a leaking door would be the problem, but he installs
> the new one anyway. The problem continues; the freezer freezes and then
> defrosts.
>
> I call my landlord, and say that the fridge still doesn't work. He
> calls the place he bought it, insists on a new one.
>
> Here's the thing: the new one came last week, and it does the SAME
> THING. It freezes, and then defrosts. It doesn't run loud, the light
> always works, but stuff doesn't stay frozen.
>
> My landlord called an electrician. He came and checked everything, but
> didn't find any problems. We tried running the fridge, via an extension
> cord, off another plug; nothing changed.
>
> Any solutions?
>
> Tad
>

Might be a bad thermostat, which opens its contacts to stop the
compressor when the fridge gets down to setpoint temperature, but
doesn't reclose its contacts as soon as it should when the fridge starts
warming up.

It could also be a "funny" defrost timer.

I'd ask that another fridge be delivered to you. You could go on like
that forever unless they send over a COMPETANT repair person who can
stick a temperature sensor inside the unit and be able to stay around
for however many hours it takes for the problem to show up.

HTH,

Jwff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.98*10^14 fathoms per fortnight.

Posted by Al Bundy on December 30, 2006, 8:56 pm



> Tad wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm not sure if this is the place for this question, but I'm eager to
>> try.
>>
>> About two months ago, I came home to my apartment to find a VERY loud
>> refrigerator and a totally defrosted freezer. I unplugged the unit,
>> cleaned up the mess, called my landlord, and told him the issue. He's
>> a nice guy, and ordered a new fridge that very hour. In the meantime
>> (about thirty minutes later), I plugged the unit back in, and it
>> started working again. I called my landlord back, and told him, but
>> he decided to not cancel the order, since my fridge was old anyway,
>> and clearly unreliable.
>>
>> So a new one comes, two days later. It's an Avanti FF106W,
>> Refrigerator/Freezer. I'm delighted, of course, and I buy all new
>> food, etc. But when I come home the next day, the freezer has
>> defrosted, just like the old one did, and everything is melting.
>>
>> I call the landlord, he calls the dealer, they send a repairman
>> (three days later), and he says the door doesn't fit well, so they
>> have to order a new one. That comes a week later, the guy who
>> installs it says he doesn't see why a leaking door would be the
>> problem, but he installs the new one anyway. The problem continues;
>> the freezer freezes and then defrosts.
>>
>> I call my landlord, and say that the fridge still doesn't work. He
>> calls the place he bought it, insists on a new one.
>>
>> Here's the thing: the new one came last week, and it does the SAME
>> THING. It freezes, and then defrosts. It doesn't run loud, the light
>> always works, but stuff doesn't stay frozen.
>>
>> My landlord called an electrician. He came and checked everything,
>> but didn't find any problems. We tried running the fridge, via an
>> extension cord, off another plug; nothing changed.
>>
>> Any solutions?
>>
>> Tad
>>
>
> Might be a bad thermostat, which opens its contacts to stop the
> compressor when the fridge gets down to setpoint temperature, but
> doesn't reclose its contacts as soon as it should when the fridge
> starts warming up.
>
> It could also be a "funny" defrost timer.
>
> I'd ask that another fridge be delivered to you. You could go on like
> that forever unless they send over a COMPETANT repair person who can
> stick a temperature sensor inside the unit and be able to stay around
> for however many hours it takes for the problem to show up.
>
> HTH,
>
> Jwff
>


In all three - old one plus two new ones?!!!!

Posted by Jeff Wisnia on December 30, 2006, 9:27 pm


Al Bundy wrote:

>
>
>>Tad wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I'm not sure if this is the place for this question, but I'm eager to
>>>try.
>>>
>>>About two months ago, I came home to my apartment to find a VERY loud
>>>refrigerator and a totally defrosted freezer. I unplugged the unit,
>>>cleaned up the mess, called my landlord, and told him the issue. He's
>>>a nice guy, and ordered a new fridge that very hour. In the meantime
>>>(about thirty minutes later), I plugged the unit back in, and it
>>>started working again. I called my landlord back, and told him, but
>>>he decided to not cancel the order, since my fridge was old anyway,
>>>and clearly unreliable.
>>>
>>>So a new one comes, two days later. It's an Avanti FF106W,
>>>Refrigerator/Freezer. I'm delighted, of course, and I buy all new
>>>food, etc. But when I come home the next day, the freezer has
>>>defrosted, just like the old one did, and everything is melting.
>>>
>>>I call the landlord, he calls the dealer, they send a repairman
>>>(three days later), and he says the door doesn't fit well, so they
>>>have to order a new one. That comes a week later, the guy who
>>>installs it says he doesn't see why a leaking door would be the
>>>problem, but he installs the new one anyway. The problem continues;
>>>the freezer freezes and then defrosts.
>>>
>>>I call my landlord, and say that the fridge still doesn't work. He
>>>calls the place he bought it, insists on a new one.
>>>
>>>Here's the thing: the new one came last week, and it does the SAME
>>>THING. It freezes, and then defrosts. It doesn't run loud, the light
>>>always works, but stuff doesn't stay frozen.
>>>
>>>My landlord called an electrician. He came and checked everything,
>>>but didn't find any problems. We tried running the fridge, via an
>>>extension cord, off another plug; nothing changed.
>>>
>>>Any solutions?
>>>
>>>Tad
>>>
>>
>>Might be a bad thermostat, which opens its contacts to stop the
>>compressor when the fridge gets down to setpoint temperature, but
>>doesn't reclose its contacts as soon as it should when the fridge
>>starts warming up.
>>
>>It could also be a "funny" defrost timer.
>>
>>I'd ask that another fridge be delivered to you. You could go on like
>>that forever unless they send over a COMPETANT repair person who can
>>stick a temperature sensor inside the unit and be able to stay around
>>for however many hours it takes for the problem to show up.
>>
>>HTH,
>>
>>Jwff
>>
>
>
>
> In all three - old one plus two new ones?!!!!


You're right of course, I misread the OP and didn't note that he'd
gotten a second new unit already, my bad.

If he takes a motor driven analog electric clock and plugs it into the
same circuit he'd see pretty easily if the power drops out while he's
not around. (Unless it goes off for eggzackly 12 hours. <G>)

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.98*10^14 fathoms per fortnight.

Posted by Al Bundy on December 30, 2006, 10:05 pm


2uvQrYnZ2dnUVZ_qKknZ2d@comcast.com:

> Al Bundy wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>>Tad wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>I'm not sure if this is the place for this question, but I'm eager to
>>>>try.
>>>>
>>>>About two months ago, I came home to my apartment to find a VERY loud
>>>>refrigerator and a totally defrosted freezer. I unplugged the unit,
>>>>cleaned up the mess, called my landlord, and told him the issue. He's
>>>>a nice guy, and ordered a new fridge that very hour. In the meantime
>>>>(about thirty minutes later), I plugged the unit back in, and it
>>>>started working again. I called my landlord back, and told him, but
>>>>he decided to not cancel the order, since my fridge was old anyway,
>>>>and clearly unreliable.
>>>>
>>>>So a new one comes, two days later. It's an Avanti FF106W,
>>>>Refrigerator/Freezer. I'm delighted, of course, and I buy all new
>>>>food, etc. But when I come home the next day, the freezer has
>>>>defrosted, just like the old one did, and everything is melting.
>>>>
>>>>I call the landlord, he calls the dealer, they send a repairman
>>>>(three days later), and he says the door doesn't fit well, so they
>>>>have to order a new one. That comes a week later, the guy who
>>>>installs it says he doesn't see why a leaking door would be the
>>>>problem, but he installs the new one anyway. The problem continues;
>>>>the freezer freezes and then defrosts.
>>>>
>>>>I call my landlord, and say that the fridge still doesn't work. He
>>>>calls the place he bought it, insists on a new one.
>>>>
>>>>Here's the thing: the new one came last week, and it does the SAME
>>>>THING. It freezes, and then defrosts. It doesn't run loud, the light
>>>>always works, but stuff doesn't stay frozen.
>>>>
>>>>My landlord called an electrician. He came and checked everything,
>>>>but didn't find any problems. We tried running the fridge, via an
>>>>extension cord, off another plug; nothing changed.
>>>>
>>>>Any solutions?
>>>>
>>>>Tad
>>>>
>>>
>>>Might be a bad thermostat, which opens its contacts to stop the
>>>compressor when the fridge gets down to setpoint temperature, but
>>>doesn't reclose its contacts as soon as it should when the fridge
>>>starts warming up.
>>>
>>>It could also be a "funny" defrost timer.
>>>
>>>I'd ask that another fridge be delivered to you. You could go on like
>>>that forever unless they send over a COMPETANT repair person who can
>>>stick a temperature sensor inside the unit and be able to stay around
>>>for however many hours it takes for the problem to show up.
>>>
>>>HTH,
>>>
>>>Jwff
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In all three - old one plus two new ones?!!!!
>
>
> You're right of course, I misread the OP and didn't note that he'd
> gotten a second new unit already, my bad.
>
> If he takes a motor driven analog electric clock and plugs it into the
> same circuit he'd see pretty easily if the power drops out while he's
> not around. (Unless it goes off for eggzackly 12 hours. <G>)
>
> Jeff
>


That'll tell some good info for sure. Especially if he comes home,
numbers are blown off and hands are embedded in the stove frame.

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