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Remodelling & lead-based paint naztazia 09-12-2006
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Posted by Goedjn on September 12, 2006, 2:24 pm
On 12 Sep 2006 09:06:51 -0700, naztazia@gmail.com wrote:

>My husband and I normally do all the remodelling in this house.
>Previous owners said the outside wood siding (underneath the current
>vinyl siding) has lead-based paint on it. Had the whole house tested
>and sure enough only the outside has lead.
>
>Husband refuses to install two much-needed new bay windows in 2
>separate front rooms. Called several "good" contractors in the area -
>none of them have procedures to carefully remove old windows without
>disturbing (or at least taking precautions against) lead-based paint
>dust. One said he did this for 20 years and no one has ever asked him
>about lead.
>
>I have an infant whose new fascination is putting everything in her
>mouth.
>
>Am I being overly cautious? Should I just let the contractors do their
>thing and just clean up stuff myself afterwards? (HEPA filters, TSP
>soap, etc.) Is it unreasonable to expect a contractor to do things
>properly with regards to lead?
>

It's not necessarily unreasonable, it's just likely
to cost you an extra $3000-$7000 for following
hazmat protocols.

Was it me, I'd find someplace else to be for the time
it takes to do the windows, and clean thoroughly
afterwards. THere won't be enough led to cause acute
lead poisoning, and the exposure isn't long-term enough
to accumulate from chronic exposure.

After about 6 months, get the child lead-tested,
just for your own mental health.

--goedjn




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Posted by Pat on September 12, 2006, 7:03 pm

Goedjn wrote:
> On 12 Sep 2006 09:06:51 -0700, naztazia@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >My husband and I normally do all the remodelling in this house.
> >Previous owners said the outside wood siding (underneath the current
> >vinyl siding) has lead-based paint on it. Had the whole house tested
> >and sure enough only the outside has lead.
> >
> >Husband refuses to install two much-needed new bay windows in 2
> >separate front rooms. Called several "good" contractors in the area -
> >none of them have procedures to carefully remove old windows without
> >disturbing (or at least taking precautions against) lead-based paint
> >dust. One said he did this for 20 years and no one has ever asked him
> >about lead.
> >
> >I have an infant whose new fascination is putting everything in her
> >mouth.
> >
> >Am I being overly cautious? Should I just let the contractors do their
> >thing and just clean up stuff myself afterwards? (HEPA filters, TSP
> >soap, etc.) Is it unreasonable to expect a contractor to do things
> >properly with regards to lead?
> >
>
> It's not necessarily unreasonable, it's just likely
> to cost you an extra $3000-$7000 for following
> hazmat protocols.
>
> Was it me, I'd find someplace else to be for the time
> it takes to do the windows, and clean thoroughly
> afterwards. THere won't be enough led to cause acute
> lead poisoning, and the exposure isn't long-term enough
> to accumulate from chronic exposure.
>
> After about 6 months, get the child lead-tested,
> just for your own mental health.
>
> --goedjn

There's no hazmat protocol for lead. You just wrap the old window in
plastic and carefully throw it in the dumpster. Extra cost is about
$10 for plastic and tape.

While the kids shouldn't be around in any construction project, this
whole thing will be done with in a day.


Posted by TakenEvent on September 12, 2006, 2:46 pm

> My husband and I normally do all the remodelling in this house.
> Previous owners said the outside wood siding (underneath the current
> vinyl siding) has lead-based paint on it. Had the whole house tested
> and sure enough only the outside has lead.
>
> Husband refuses to install two much-needed new bay windows in 2
> separate front rooms. Called several "good" contractors in the area -
> none of them have procedures to carefully remove old windows without
> disturbing (or at least taking precautions against) lead-based paint
> dust. One said he did this for 20 years and no one has ever asked him
> about lead.
>
> I have an infant whose new fascination is putting everything in her
> mouth.
>
> Am I being overly cautious? Should I just let the contractors do their
> thing and just clean up stuff myself afterwards? (HEPA filters, TSP
> soap, etc.) Is it unreasonable to expect a contractor to do things
> properly with regards to lead?


Lead is not a big deal in your case. Keep the infant away from the
construction, and clean up the yard after it's done using a rake and a shop
vac. If you keep the jobsite clean, there shouldn't be enough exposure to
harm your baby. Lead poisoning comes mostly in the form of either eating
paint chips or continual exposure to the dust. People have been surviving
both the application of lead paint and living in homes covered in lead paint
for a very, very, long time.

Here's a link for more info:
http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/pubs/5054.html

Don't let that contractor fool you; notices regarding lead paint are on
every paint can these days. There won't really be a lot of lead exposure
when installing windows. If the contractor has to cut or sand wood coated
with lead paint, he can wear a dust mask or respirator, though with 20 years
of experience I doubt this'll be the proverbial straw.

If your exterior paint contains lead, you should definitely paint the house.
That will take care of the dust and much of the chipping. There is no good
reason for not getting your windows installed.




Posted by dpb on September 12, 2006, 5:08 pm

TakenEvent wrote:
...
> > ... outside wood siding (underneath the current vinyl siding) has lead-based
paint ...

> If your exterior paint contains lead, you should definitely paint the house.
> That will take care of the dust and much of the chipping. ...

Did you read the post? There already is vinyl siding -OVER- the
painted siding...


Posted by TakenEvent on September 13, 2006, 2:24 am

>
> TakenEvent wrote:
> ...
> > > ... outside wood siding (underneath the current vinyl siding) has
lead-based paint ...
>
> > If your exterior paint contains lead, you should definitely paint the
house.
> > That will take care of the dust and much of the chipping. ...
>
> Did you read the post? There already is vinyl siding -OVER- the
> painted siding...
>
>

Well, for anyone else not blessed with vinyl...




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