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Remove Tar Paper from Basement Walls - Asbestos? Buck Turgidson 09-01-2007
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Posted by Buck Turgidson on September 1, 2007, 12:15 pm
I want to tear off my basement wood panelling, insulate with polystyrene,
and then drywall (even though my code office says that paneling is ok over
foam). However, the paneling is furred onto cinderblocks, and covering the
block is tar paper.

Does tar paper, from a 1961 house, usually contain asbestos? Is an
abatement contractor required? How friable is the stuff? I guess I need to
remove it because I need to "Liquid Nail" the foam panels onto the block.

I've cut a 1" piece to have sent to a lab for testing.

Thanks for any advice.



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Posted by dadiOH on September 1, 2007, 2:57 pm
Buck Turgidson wrote:
> I want to tear off my basement wood panelling, insulate with
> polystyrene, and then drywall (even though my code office says that
> paneling is ok over foam). However, the paneling is furred onto
> cinderblocks, and covering the block is tar paper.
>
> Does tar paper, from a 1961 house, usually contain asbestos? Is an
> abatement contractor required? How friable is the stuff? I guess
> I need to remove it because I need to "Liquid Nail" the foam panels
> onto the block.
>
> I've cut a 1" piece to have sent to a lab for testing.
>
> Thanks for any advice.

Tar paper = tar + paper. Don't think the cinder blocks contain
asbestos either. Probably not even lead.

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Posted by HeyBub on September 1, 2007, 4:59 pm
Buck Turgidson wrote:
> I want to tear off my basement wood panelling, insulate with
> polystyrene, and then drywall (even though my code office says that
> paneling is ok over foam). However, the paneling is furred onto
> cinderblocks, and covering the block is tar paper.
>
> Does tar paper, from a 1961 house, usually contain asbestos? Is an
> abatement contractor required? How friable is the stuff? I guess I
> need to remove it because I need to "Liquid Nail" the foam panels
> onto the block.
> I've cut a 1" piece to have sent to a lab for testing.
>
> Thanks for any advice.

You should have asked before you sent off the stuff.

Suppose the test comes back positive. You are now liable for remediation AND
for informing subsequent buyers that the house was once contaminated but is
now probably okay. That is, if your local government doesn't condem your
property, raze it to the ground, and remove the top ten inches of soil.

In the aftermath of 9/11, tens of thousands of pounds of asbestos rained
down on New Yorkers. Not a single person got sick (except for a few
thousand, but that has statistical clustering written all over it).



Posted by Uncle Monster on September 1, 2007, 5:16 pm
HeyBub wrote:
> Buck Turgidson wrote:
>> I want to tear off my basement wood panelling, insulate with
>> polystyrene, and then drywall (even though my code office says that
>> paneling is ok over foam). However, the paneling is furred onto
>> cinderblocks, and covering the block is tar paper.
>>
>> Does tar paper, from a 1961 house, usually contain asbestos? Is an
>> abatement contractor required? How friable is the stuff? I guess I
>> need to remove it because I need to "Liquid Nail" the foam panels
>> onto the block.
>> I've cut a 1" piece to have sent to a lab for testing.
>>
>> Thanks for any advice.
>
> You should have asked before you sent off the stuff.
>
> Suppose the test comes back positive. You are now liable for remediation AND
> for informing subsequent buyers that the house was once contaminated but is
> now probably okay. That is, if your local government doesn't condem your
> property, raze it to the ground, and remove the top ten inches of soil.
>
> In the aftermath of 9/11, tens of thousands of pounds of asbestos rained
> down on New Yorkers. Not a single person got sick (except for a few
> thousand, but that has statistical clustering written all over it).
>

A few years ago I read about a young woman who
was a scientist working for the EPA and her
research showed that only one type of asbestos
was a health hazard. She was told to shut up
because if people found out that they had been
forced to spend billions of dollars in unnecessary
clean up, the lives of the EPA bureaucrats would
be in danger.

[8~{} Uncle Monster

Posted by Buck Turgidson on September 1, 2007, 6:53 pm
Yeah, if it was just me, I'd put on a cheap paper mask and tear it off.
But I got a couple of little kids crawling around in the basement. I gotta
think about them.



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