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Removing Thick Wallpaper Paste Red Green 06-12-2008
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Posted by Pipedown on June 12, 2008, 7:30 pm

> Red Green wrote:
>
>>Old house that had some wallpaper boarder up. No sizing. Removed
>>tediously. Paste caked on thick. Wall has a texture. Paste filled in the
>>texture. I can probably make it not very noticable between feather edge
>>sanding, priming, etc.
>>Can wallpaper paste removers disolve this off or is that basically for
>>thin residuals? Any personal experience with a particular one worked out
>>good?
>>
>>Have a look-see here for a rough idea of it:
>>
>> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2dwht9k&s=3
>>
> When I remove wallpaper, I spray the wall to soften the paste. Then
> scrape or scrub with rag
> and warm water. I've never used anything more than water and household
> cleaner. I doubt
> the chemical removers are much better than plain water.

I agree, all paste is water soluable. All the removers are is typically a
bit of soap to help wet the surface and retard evaporation. Keep scrubbing
and it will eventially come off if it was applied over plaster or paint. If
it was directly onto drywall mud or paper then you might as well sand and
paint or skim it over with new mud.

Be careful applying mud over wallpaper. If it wants to come off it will due
to the moisture in the mud, you could end up with a big mess and self
stripping walls.



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Posted by Red Green on June 12, 2008, 9:06 pm

>
>> Red Green wrote:
>>
>>>Old house that had some wallpaper boarder up. No sizing. Removed
>>>tediously. Paste caked on thick. Wall has a texture. Paste filled in
>>>the texture. I can probably make it not very noticable between
>>>feather edge sanding, priming, etc.
>>>Can wallpaper paste removers disolve this off or is that basically
>>>for thin residuals? Any personal experience with a particular one
>>>worked out good?
>>>
>>>Have a look-see here for a rough idea of it:
>>>
>>> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2dwht9k&s=3
>>>
>> When I remove wallpaper, I spray the wall to soften the paste. Then
>> scrape or scrub with rag
>> and warm water. I've never used anything more than water and
>> household cleaner. I doubt
>> the chemical removers are much better than plain water.
>
> I agree, all paste is water soluable. All the removers are is
> typically a bit of soap to help wet the surface and retard
> evaporation. Keep scrubbing and it will eventially come off if it was
> applied over plaster or paint. If it was directly onto drywall mud or
> paper then you might as well sand and paint or skim it over with new
> mud.

Fortunately it's not right over drywall. Over paint.

>
> Be careful applying mud over wallpaper. If it wants to come off it
> will due to the moisture in the mud, you could end up with a big mess
> and self stripping walls.
>
>

All paper is off but I've been down the road you speak of. Someone
painted over wallpaper and it was a mess. Tried mudding over to smooth
and learned about the bigger mess you speak of. Then learned about
priming with oil base primer first.

Thanks for the reply.

Posted by Norminn on June 12, 2008, 10:15 pm
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>Be careful applying mud over wallpaper. If it wants to come off it will due
>to the moisture in the mud, you could end up with a big mess and self
>stripping walls.
>
>
>
>
Reminds me of when latex paint was "new", and my mom painted over
wallpaper. The wallpaper started
coming off the wall, but she fought back :o) Pressed it back on until
it started to dry again.

Posted by Red Green on June 12, 2008, 9:02 pm

> Red Green wrote:
>
>>Old house that had some wallpaper boarder up. No sizing. Removed
>>tediously. Paste caked on thick. Wall has a texture. Paste filled in
>>the texture. I can probably make it not very noticable between feather
>>edge sanding, priming, etc.
>>
>>Can wallpaper paste removers disolve this off or is that basically for
>>thin residuals? Any personal experience with a particular one worked
>>out good?
>>
>>Have a look-see here for a rough idea of it:
>>
>> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2dwht9k&s=3
>>
>>
> When I remove wallpaper, I spray the wall to soften the paste. Then
> scrape or scrub with rag
> and warm water. I've never used anything more than water and
> household cleaner. I doubt
> the chemical removers are much better than plain water.

I've done a bit of wallpaper removal. Separate surface from the backing
then, as you, just warm water, soak and peel.

The first time I did it I bought some remover. Ran out in short time. Man
this is gonna get expensive. Figured I'd just try warm water and finish
the area I was working on then go get some more remover. Went just as
"easy" (ughhh!) as with the remover. Water only ever since.

Thanks for the reply.

Posted by Paul Franklin on June 12, 2008, 10:18 pm
wrote:

>Old house that had some wallpaper boarder up. No sizing. Removed tediously.
>Paste caked on thick. Wall has a texture. Paste filled in the texture. I
>can probably make it not very noticable between feather edge sanding,
>priming, etc.
>
>Can wallpaper paste removers disolve this off or is that basically for thin
>residuals? Any personal experience with a particular one worked out good?
>
>Have a look-see here for a rough idea of it:
>
>         http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2dwht9k&s=3

If warm water works too slowly for you, rent a wallpaper steamer, it
works great for removing thick paste residue. Just steam an area for
10-15 seconds or so and scrape off with a plastic wide knife. Then
finish up with a clean warm water washdown.

I had several rooms and hallways that had paper over bare drywall (not
primed or painted). The steamer allowed me to get the paper and paste
off without totally trashing the drywall. The steam softened the
drywall paper facing, but after it dried out, it was fine.

Or for not much more than rental cost, you can buy a Wagner steamer,
which, unlike their painting machines, actually works pretty well,
especially if you don't have a huge area to do.

HTH,

Paul F.

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