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Posted by rvfulltime (was xenman) on October 23, 2005, 8:21 pm
I'm starting to remove some old wallpaper in my bathroom of the condo I
bought several years ago. The age of the wallpaper is a mystery to me.
It apears to be an aluminum foil type of wallpaper. Quite shiney.
As I start to remove it, it appears that the paper is in two (or more) layers.
Not one wallpaper on top of another, but two layers for this wallpaper. In
other words the wallpaper is separating as I try to remove it. The top layer
is coming off fairly easily, but the bottom layer is firmly glued to the
underlying
painted wall.
Here's my question... Do I need to remove that underlying paper layer or can
I paint right over the top of it? If I need to remove it, is a steamer (which I
own)
the best tool to use? I removed a similar wallpaper from the kitchen when I
bought the condo and it came off quite easily, but there was another layer of
wallpaper under it, which needed a steamer to remove.
No email please.
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Posted by Brad Bruce on October 23, 2005, 8:25 pm
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> I'm starting to remove some old wallpaper in my bathroom of the condo
> I bought several years ago. The age of the wallpaper is a mystery to
> me. It apears to be an aluminum foil type of wallpaper. Quite shiney.
>
> As I start to remove it, it appears that the paper is in two (or more)
> layers. Not one wallpaper on top of another, but two layers for this
> wallpaper. In other words the wallpaper is separating as I try to
> remove it. The top layer is coming off fairly easily, but the bottom
> layer is firmly glued to the underlying painted wall.
>
> Here's my question... Do I need to remove that underlying paper layer
> or can I paint right over the top of it? If I need to remove it, is a
> steamer (which I own) the best tool to use? I removed a similar
> wallpaper from the kitchen when I bought the condo and it came off
> quite easily, but there was another layer of wallpaper under it, which
> needed a steamer to remove.
>
> No email please.
>
Let me guess... Built in the early 70's. The walls probably aren't
sized. Have fun with the steamer, but get ready to fill in some gouges
from the wallpaper removal.
You've got to get it down to drywall, but DON'T scrape off all of the
paper face of the drywall (yes, I've done it....)
Brad
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Posted by Kyle Boatright on October 23, 2005, 8:41 pm
There is no great answer to the question. I've done it every way... Steamed
and scraped it off the wall in postage stamp sized pieces, painted over it,
etc. Personally, if I was fixing a home to sell it, I'd paint over the
paper. If I was planning on keeping the house, I'd take the paper down.
The problem with painting over it is that eventually, the paper will start
to release in small sections and you'll have visible bubbles on the wall.
Even better, new paint seems to be a *great* wallpaper adhesive release
agent. As soon as you paint over it, either you begin to notice bubbles you
hadn't noticed before, or new bubbles will form or both. After that, the
painted wallpaper is even harder to remove, because the layer of paint over
it makes it that much more water and steam proof...
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> I'm starting to remove some old wallpaper in my bathroom of the condo I
> bought several years ago. The age of the wallpaper is a mystery to me.
> It apears to be an aluminum foil type of wallpaper. Quite shiney.
> As I start to remove it, it appears that the paper is in two (or more)
> layers.
> Not one wallpaper on top of another, but two layers for this wallpaper.
> In
> other words the wallpaper is separating as I try to remove it. The top
> layer
> is coming off fairly easily, but the bottom layer is firmly glued to the
> underlying
> painted wall.
> Here's my question... Do I need to remove that underlying paper layer or
> can
> I paint right over the top of it? If I need to remove it, is a steamer
> (which I own)
> the best tool to use? I removed a similar wallpaper from the kitchen
> when I
> bought the condo and it came off quite easily, but there was another layer
> of
> wallpaper under it, which needed a steamer to remove.
> No email please.
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Posted by Trekking Tom on October 23, 2005, 10:39 pm
Take some very coarse sandpaper and sand the wallpaper now get a
garden sprayer and some paper remover called DIFF. fill the sprayer
add a little diff and spray wait a bit and spray again repeat many
times. The paper should slide off the wall, hopefully before you
soften the drywall & mud. Repair walls as needed before painting or
papering again. The idea is to cut the waterproof layer so the water
you spray can penetrate and loosen the glue. If you have to scrape
over and over it's not wet enough yet. Close the door turn on the
steamy shower.
Tom
On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 17:21:55 -0700, "rvfulltime (was xenman)"
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>I'm starting to remove some old wallpaper in my bathroom of the condo I
>bought several years ago. The age of the wallpaper is a mystery to me.
>It apears to be an aluminum foil type of wallpaper. Quite shiney.
>As I start to remove it, it appears that the paper is in two (or more) layers.
>Not one wallpaper on top of another, but two layers for this wallpaper. In
>other words the wallpaper is separating as I try to remove it. The top layer
>is coming off fairly easily, but the bottom layer is firmly glued to the
underlying
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>painted wall.
>Here's my question... Do I need to remove that underlying paper layer or can
>I paint right over the top of it? If I need to remove it, is a steamer (which
I own)
show/hide quoted text
>the best tool to use? I removed a similar wallpaper from the kitchen when I
>bought the condo and it came off quite easily, but there was another layer of
>wallpaper under it, which needed a steamer to remove.
>No email please.
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Posted by rvfulltime (was xenman) on October 24, 2005, 7:58 pm
I've been that route before with other wall paper, but due to the nature
of the paper and how it was applied, I don't think that solution will work.
Thanks anyway.
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On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 21:39:53 -0500, Trekking Tom <> wrote:
>Take some very coarse sandpaper and sand the wallpaper now get a
>garden sprayer and some paper remover called DIFF. fill the sprayer
>add a little diff and spray wait a bit and spray again repeat many
>times. The paper should slide off the wall, hopefully before you
>soften the drywall & mud. Repair walls as needed before painting or
>papering again. The idea is to cut the waterproof layer so the water
>you spray can penetrate and loosen the glue. If you have to scrape
>over and over it's not wet enough yet. Close the door turn on the
>steamy shower.
>Tom
>
>On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 17:21:55 -0700, "rvfulltime (was xenman)"
>>I'm starting to remove some old wallpaper in my bathroom of the condo I
>>bought several years ago. The age of the wallpaper is a mystery to me.
>>It apears to be an aluminum foil type of wallpaper. Quite shiney.
>>As I start to remove it, it appears that the paper is in two (or more) layers.
>>Not one wallpaper on top of another, but two layers for this wallpaper. In
>>other words the wallpaper is separating as I try to remove it. The top layer
>>is coming off fairly easily, but the bottom layer is firmly glued to the
underlying
show/hide quoted text
>>painted wall.
>>Here's my question... Do I need to remove that underlying paper layer or can
>>I paint right over the top of it? If I need to remove it, is a steamer (which
I own)
show/hide quoted text
>>the best tool to use? I removed a similar wallpaper from the kitchen when I
>>bought the condo and it came off quite easily, but there was another layer of
>>wallpaper under it, which needed a steamer to remove.
>>No email please.
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> I bought several years ago. The age of the wallpaper is a mystery to
> me. It apears to be an aluminum foil type of wallpaper. Quite shiney.
>
> As I start to remove it, it appears that the paper is in two (or more)
> layers. Not one wallpaper on top of another, but two layers for this
> wallpaper. In other words the wallpaper is separating as I try to
> remove it. The top layer is coming off fairly easily, but the bottom
> layer is firmly glued to the underlying painted wall.
>
> Here's my question... Do I need to remove that underlying paper layer
> or can I paint right over the top of it? If I need to remove it, is a
> steamer (which I own) the best tool to use? I removed a similar
> wallpaper from the kitchen when I bought the condo and it came off
> quite easily, but there was another layer of wallpaper under it, which
> needed a steamer to remove.
>
> No email please.
>