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Removing old lockset CptDondo 01-05-2007
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Posted by CptDondo on January 5, 2007, 3:32 pm


I have an old front door with a lockset that I can't for the life of me
get out.

It's an old Schlage - could date back 15 years or even more. It has the
key-in-knob lock.

The inside knob came off easily enough. But the outside knob will not
come off.

There's some sort of interlock between the latch (the part that engages
the door frame) and the square shaft that joins the knobs.

There's no apparent release mechanism, no visible screws, pins, etc.
holding it together.

The latch part will come out about 1/8" before it stops.

The outside knob will come out about 3/16" before it stops.

And the guts that the inside knob was attached to come out about 3/16"
before they stop.

After that it all seems to hit some kind of pin/interlock and nothing
will come out any further.

I could drill it out, but that would create a huge mess of filings. I'd
rather find a way to get it out sanely....

--Yan

Posted by Dan Lanciani on January 6, 2007, 2:29 am


writes:
| I have an old front door with a lockset that I can't for the life of me
| get out.
|
| It's an old Schlage - could date back 15 years or even more. It has the
| key-in-knob lock.
|
| The inside knob came off easily enough. But the outside knob will not
| come off.

Did the inside knob have a spring catch that you released by pushing a
pin through a hole? Is there a similar hole on the outside knob? If
so you should try pushing the release with the key at 180 (or possibly
90) degrees.

                                Dan Lanciani
                                ddl@danlan.*com

Posted by on January 6, 2007, 4:37 am


wrote:

>I have an old front door with a lockset that I can't for the life of me
>get out.
>
>It's an old Schlage - could date back 15 years or even more. It has the
>key-in-knob lock.
>
>The inside knob came off easily enough. But the outside knob will not
>come off.
>
>There's some sort of interlock between the latch (the part that engages
>the door frame) and the square shaft that joins the knobs.
>
>There's no apparent release mechanism, no visible screws, pins, etc.
>holding it together.
>
>The latch part will come out about 1/8" before it stops.
>
>The outside knob will come out about 3/16" before it stops.
>
>And the guts that the inside knob was attached to come out about 3/16"
>before they stop.
>
>After that it all seems to hit some kind of pin/interlock and nothing
>will come out any further.
>
>I could drill it out, but that would create a huge mess of filings. I'd
>rather find a way to get it out sanely....
>
>--Yan


I think I know what you have.
Under the inside knob is the decorative round plate (the part against
the door itself). You need to pop off that tin plate. Under it are
the screws that hold the locket to the door. That plate is just press
fit (by hand) onto the lockset. See if you can pry that off. Use a
screwdriver or even a butter knife. Pry against the door and behind
that plate. Use a small piece of cardboard against the door to
prevent damaging the wood.

Mark

Posted by DanG on January 6, 2007, 7:26 am


Remove inside knob (you have already done that)
There is thin shell "rose" that is covering up the
through-the-door screws that hold the two halves together. You do
not need to remove the outside handle. Once you remove the
through bolts, the inside and outside pieces come right off.
There are usually 2 screws holding the strike in the edge of the
door. Once those screws are out it should pull out. Sometimes
all of the above can be compounded by multiple layers of paint,
etc.

The "rose" can be difficult to pop off. Look around the
perimeter, there should be a very small slot where it touches the
door that can allow you to use a very small screwdriver to pop it
off.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DanG
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a sophisticated and elegant way to say I LOVE YOU!
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>I have an old front door with a lockset that I can't for the life
>of me get out.
>
> It's an old Schlage - could date back 15 years or even more. It
> has the key-in-knob lock.
>
> The inside knob came off easily enough. But the outside knob
> will not come off.
>
> There's some sort of interlock between the latch (the part that
> engages the door frame) and the square shaft that joins the
> knobs.
>
> There's no apparent release mechanism, no visible screws, pins,
> etc. holding it together.
>
> The latch part will come out about 1/8" before it stops.
>
> The outside knob will come out about 3/16" before it stops.
>
> And the guts that the inside knob was attached to come out about
> 3/16" before they stop.
>
> After that it all seems to hit some kind of pin/interlock and
> nothing will come out any further.
>
> I could drill it out, but that would create a huge mess of
> filings. I'd rather find a way to get it out sanely....
>
> --Yan



Posted by HeyBub on January 6, 2007, 11:25 am


CptDondo wrote:
> I have an old front door with a lockset that I can't for the life of
> me get out.
>
> It's an old Schlage - could date back 15 years or even more. It has
> the key-in-knob lock.
>
> The inside knob came off easily enough. But the outside knob will not
> come off.
>
> There's some sort of interlock between the latch (the part that
> engages the door frame) and the square shaft that joins the knobs.
>
> There's no apparent release mechanism, no visible screws, pins, etc.
> holding it together.
>
> The latch part will come out about 1/8" before it stops.
>
> The outside knob will come out about 3/16" before it stops.
>
> And the guts that the inside knob was attached to come out about 3/16"
> before they stop.
>
> After that it all seems to hit some kind of pin/interlock and nothing
> will come out any further.
>
> I could drill it out, but that would create a huge mess of filings. I'd
> rather find a way to get it out sanely....

The outside knob does not come off. It is permantly attached to the rest of
the mechanism. When you remove the outside knob, all the guts of the lock
come with it. Therefore, figure out what's holding the main mechanical parts
to the door.



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