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Repair Concrete Step Buck Turgidson 11-10-2006
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Posted by Buck Turgidson on November 10, 2006, 5:56 pm


I have a step to a door where a chunk chipped off the end. If I built a
wood form and filled it in with concrete or straight portland cement, would
it bond to the existing concrete?



Posted by Joe on November 10, 2006, 11:18 pm



Buck Turgidson wrote:
> I have a step to a door where a chunk chipped off the end. If I built a
> wood form and filled it in with concrete or straight portland cement, would
> it bond to the existing concrete?

Cement repairs bond fairly well, but you need to choose your material
carefully. First, old chipped concrete is inherently dirty. Start your
repair by chipping down to fresh unexposed concrete. Chisel a few
grooves if you can to key the repair in place. Build a form. You should
have a HIGH STRENGTH concrete patch or mortar mix on hand, which you
bought at Menards, Home Depot or wherever. Mix what you need and follow
directions on the bag precisely, not too dry, nor too wet. Dampen the
chiseled area and pat it dry or use a bit of compressed air if you
have it available. Trowel on your mortar and smooth off and work out
the bubbles. Let it alone for a couple of days and take off the forms.
A little work with a mason's mortar stone will smoooth off the little
imperfections and you're good to go. HTH

Joe


Posted by Colbyt on November 11, 2006, 5:14 pm



>
> Buck Turgidson wrote:
>> I have a step to a door where a chunk chipped off the end. If I built a
>> wood form and filled it in with concrete or straight portland cement,
>> would
>> it bond to the existing concrete?
>
> Cement repairs bond fairly well, but you need to choose your material
> carefully. First, old chipped concrete is inherently dirty. Start your
> repair by chipping down to fresh unexposed concrete. Chisel a few
> grooves if you can to key the repair in place. Build a form. You should
> have a HIGH STRENGTH concrete patch or mortar mix on hand, which you
> bought at Menards, Home Depot or wherever. Mix what you need and follow
> directions on the bag precisely, not too dry, nor too wet. Dampen the
> chiseled area and pat it dry or use a bit of compressed air if you
> have it available. Trowel on your mortar and smooth off and work out
> the bubbles. Let it alone for a couple of days and take off the forms.
> A little work with a mason's mortar stone will smoooth off the little
> imperfections and you're good to go. HTH
>
> Joe
>

Adding to the advice above I would install two or more anchor pins to help
reinforce the patch. Depending on the size of the patch these pins would
vary in size from large tapcon screws to 3/8" rebar.

No matter what you do it is not going to last forever.

Colbyt



Posted by Buck Turgidson on November 12, 2006, 8:27 am


> Adding to the advice above I would install two or more anchor pins to help
> reinforce the patch. Depending on the size of the patch these pins would
> vary in size from large tapcon screws to 3/8" rebar.
>
> No matter what you do it is not going to last forever.


Are you suggesting that I drill some tapcons in first, and then pour
concrete around them, thereby embedding the tapcons?

Thanks for the tip.



Posted by hallerb@aol.com on November 12, 2006, 9:04 am



Buck Turgidson wrote:
> > Adding to the advice above I would install two or more anchor pins to help
> > reinforce the patch. Depending on the size of the patch these pins would
> > vary in size from large tapcon screws to 3/8" rebar.
> >
> > No matter what you do it is not going to last forever.
>
>
> Are you suggesting that I drill some tapcons in first, and then pour
> concrete around them, thereby embedding the tapcons?
>
> Thanks for the tip.

yeah the tapcons help, wait about a month then seal the entire steps
with a liberal covering of thompsons water seal.

if a collapse of this step would be very dangerous, like the top step
of 10 making it a long fall or you are planning on selling the home
your probably better off replacing the steps.

buyers, home inspectors and lawyers if someone falls will make your
life miserable.

given all that i have fixed some successfully for over 10 years.

the trouble is the base material concrete you attach patch to weakens
so futher failuire is guaranteed


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