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Replace existing sprinkler system? dan 05-03-2008
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Posted by dan on May 3, 2008, 1:28 pm
Info:

4 zones
1.5 HP pump on well
Lot size: 125 X 80
House Size: 55 X 55 (Guesstimate)
Shed: 16 X 12
Age: approx 15 years (That's a guess, the house is that old)

All zones appear to have low pressure. I measured one zone it was at
about 21 psi and another around the same (so low the pop-up sprinklers
won't rotate). I believe the system was designed at bare minimums and
does not fully cover the lawn. It also has a mosh-posh of zoning (one
zone hits half of back yard and 2 heads in the front yard.

I believe my main issue is pressure. I thought about going to a 2hp
pump. But then the zones really don't fully cover the lawn anyway so
I'm thinking about just replacing the whole system and going with 5
zones.

I hate leaving the old piping in, but it would be a pain to take out. I
thought about using different colored pipe so in the future, I'd know
what the new system was on. The current system uses white pipe from
what I have seen, but who knows what it uses where I haven't seen it.

Thoughts?
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Posted by ransley on May 3, 2008, 2:26 pm
On May 3, 12:28=A0pm, "dan" <> wrote:
> Info:
>
> 4 zones
> 1.5 HP pump on well
> Lot size: 125 X 80
> House Size: 55 X 55 (Guesstimate)
> Shed: 16 X 12
> Age: approx 15 years (That's a guess, the house is that old)
>
> All zones appear to have low pressure. I measured one zone it was at
> about 21 psi and another around the same (so low the pop-up sprinklers
> won't rotate). I believe the system was designed at bare minimums and
> does not fully cover the lawn. It also has a mosh-posh of zoning (one
> zone hits half of back yard and 2 heads in the front yard.
>
> I believe my main issue is pressure. I thought about going to a 2hp
> pump. But then the zones really don't fully cover the lawn anyway so
> I'm thinking about just replacing the whole system and going with 5
> zones.
>
> I hate leaving the old piping in, but it would be a pain to take out. I
> thought about using different colored pipe so in the future, I'd know
> what the new system was on. The current system uses white pipe from
> what I have seen, but who knows what it uses where I haven't seen it.
>
> Thoughts?
> --

It would be thousands cheaper to add pipe and heads and maybe a new
pump. I would fix and upgrade it.

Posted by Norminn on May 3, 2008, 6:16 pm
dan wrote:

>Info:
>
>4 zones
>1.5 HP pump on well
>Lot size: 125 X 80
>House Size: 55 X 55 (Guesstimate)
>Shed: 16 X 12
>Age: approx 15 years (That's a guess, the house is that old)
>
>All zones appear to have low pressure. I measured one zone it was at
>about 21 psi and another around the same (so low the pop-up sprinklers
>won't rotate). I believe the system was designed at bare minimums and
>does not fully cover the lawn. It also has a mosh-posh of zoning (one
>zone hits half of back yard and 2 heads in the front yard.
>
>I believe my main issue is pressure. I thought about going to a 2hp
>pump. But then the zones really don't fully cover the lawn anyway so
>I'm thinking about just replacing the whole system and going with 5
>zones.
>
>I hate leaving the old piping in, but it would be a pain to take out. I
>thought about using different colored pipe so in the future, I'd know
>what the new system was on. The current system uses white pipe from
>what I have seen, but who knows what it uses where I haven't seen it.
>
>Thoughts?
>
>
You say it doesn't cover well......did you formerly have higher pressure
and it still didn't cover?
Seems such low pressure would be the problem, and boosting the pressure
the solution.
15 years isn't very old for pvc pipe - ours is 40 and in fine shape.
We have had pipe damage
when mowers run over s.h.'s, but that is carelessness. Flex pipe can
also help. We get strips that
get too dry because trees planted since the s.s. instlalation block
water to a strip.

Sprinkler head companies provide design service if you sent drawings;
that would be one solution
to get adequate coverage. Any time you put in heads with different
flow, you change the coverage
to the other heads on the zone. Might just need adjusting or changing
the heads if you get the pressure
up to a decent level. What is the water supply? Meter on full?

Posted by dan on May 3, 2008, 6:43 pm
Norminn wrote:

> dan wrote:
>
> > Info:
> >
> > 4 zones
> > 1.5 HP pump on well
> > Lot size: 125 X 80
> > House Size: 55 X 55 (Guesstimate)
> > Shed: 16 X 12
> > Age: approx 15 years (That's a guess, the house is that old)
> >
> > All zones appear to have low pressure. I measured one zone it was at
> > about 21 psi and another around the same (so low the pop-up
> > sprinklers won't rotate). I believe the system was designed at bare
> > minimums and does not fully cover the lawn. It also has a mosh-posh
> > of zoning (one zone hits half of back yard and 2 heads in the front
> > yard.
> >
> > I believe my main issue is pressure. I thought about going to a 2hp
> > pump. But then the zones really don't fully cover the lawn anyway so
> > I'm thinking about just replacing the whole system and going with 5
> > zones.
> >
> > I hate leaving the old piping in, but it would be a pain to take
> > out. I thought about using different colored pipe so in the future,
> > I'd know what the new system was on. The current system uses white
> > pipe from what I have seen, but who knows what it uses where I
> > haven't seen it.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> You say it doesn't cover well......did you formerly have higher
> pressure and it still didn't cover? Seems such low pressure would be

We bought the house with it installed. It never had adequate cover from
the time we bought it.

> the problem, and boosting the pressure the solution. 15 years isn't
> very old for pvc pipe - ours is 40 and in fine shape. We have had
> pipe damage when mowers run over s.h.'s, but that is carelessness.
> Flex pipe can also help. We get strips that get too dry because trees
> planted since the s.s. instlalation block water to a strip.
>
> Sprinkler head companies provide design service if you sent drawings;
> that would be one solution to get adequate coverage. Any time you
> put in heads with different flow, you change the coverage to the
> other heads on the zone. Might just need adjusting or changing the
> heads if you get the pressure up to a decent level. What is the
> water supply? Meter on full?

I plan to have a design done just to see if the original was
ill-planned. Something else I didn't mention. We had a sprinkler
company come in to "fix" low pressure on one of the lines. They said
there was a leak somewhere. Instead of fixing, they just put in a new
line with sprinkler heads - idiots! Now I have one dead set of lines
and another that still doesn't work properly.



--


Posted by Norminn on May 3, 2008, 7:36 pm
clipped

>
>I plan to have a design done just to see if the original was
>ill-planned. Something else I didn't mention. We had a sprinkler
>company come in to "fix" low pressure on one of the lines. They said
>there was a leak somewhere. Instead of fixing, they just put in a new
>line with sprinkler heads - idiots! Now I have one dead set of lines
>and another that still doesn't work properly.
>
>
>
What I asked was whether the pressure was any different when you bought
the house? Are you
on municipal water supply? If so, you should be able to find out what
the pressure is at the meter.

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