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Replace toilet base teser3@hotmail.com 04-26-2008
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Posted by teser3@hotmail.com on April 26, 2008, 10:55 am
I am replacing toilet in 35 year old bathroom.
When I took the toilet off I removed the wax ring. The wax ring sat
on a black base part that sits on the floor and goes into the
drainage. It broke and I need a new one. It seems to have two parts
with the upper part that sits on the floor and the lower part that is
like a short tub going into the drainage area. Is this a univeral
part and do I need to put any special silicone on the new one when I
put it in?

Posted by Speedy Jim on April 26, 2008, 11:21 am
teser3@hotmail.com wrote:
> I am replacing toilet in 35 year old bathroom.
> When I took the toilet off I removed the wax ring. The wax ring sat
> on a black base part that sits on the floor and goes into the
> drainage. It broke and I need a new one. It seems to have two parts
> with the upper part that sits on the floor and the lower part that is
> like a short tub going into the drainage area. Is this a univeral
> part and do I need to put any special silicone on the new one when I
> put it in?


The part in the floor is the "closet flange".
Black means ABS plastic (likely).

You will need more info.

You *may* be able to use an expansion flange like:
http://www.plumbersurplus.com/Prod/Oatey-43650-ABS-4-ABS-Twist-N-Set-Replacement-Closet-Flange/84441/Cat/156

or: http://tinyurl.com/3ze4nz

Or one of these:
http://www.plumbingsupply.com/toiletflanges.html
Maybe just "repair" the broken flange edge with replacement ring.

The again, you could be in over your head. You decide...

Jim

Posted by teser3@hotmail.com on April 26, 2008, 11:39 am
Thanks,

For the closet flange it looks similiar to what I have with the tube
part that goes into the drainage at 4 inches wide and the whole part
is 3.5 inches height.
Do I need any silicone when I put it in? And if I need the tube part
that connects to drainage what kind of silicone do I use?

Posted by Speedy Jim on April 26, 2008, 3:26 pm
teser3@hotmail.com wrote:

> Thanks,
>
> For the closet flange it looks similiar to what I have with the tube
> part that goes into the drainage at 4 inches wide and the whole part
> is 3.5 inches height.
> Do I need any silicone when I put it in? And if I need the tube part
> that connects to drainage what kind of silicone do I use?


The first one with the rubber seal at the bottom doesn't need any
sealant.

The plastic fittings are normally "solvent welded" using a special
glue. For the black plastic, it is ABS cement. Silicone sealant (RTV)
*could* be used, but it's not a recognized method.

The flange should be anchored to the floor, if possible.

Posted by CM on April 27, 2008, 10:04 am
Yes you could use RTV sealant like Speedy Jim said and then go back later
after the RTV sealant fails and do the whole job over again.

cm

> teser3@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> For the closet flange it looks similiar to what I have with the tube
>> part that goes into the drainage at 4 inches wide and the whole part
>> is 3.5 inches height.
>> Do I need any silicone when I put it in? And if I need the tube part
>> that connects to drainage what kind of silicone do I use?
>
>
> The first one with the rubber seal at the bottom doesn't need any
> sealant.
>
> The plastic fittings are normally "solvent welded" using a special
> glue. For the black plastic, it is ABS cement. Silicone sealant (RTV)
> *could* be used, but it's not a recognized method.
>
> The flange should be anchored to the floor, if possible.



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