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Replacing Bathroom Ceiling Fan/light on bottom floor Tomes 07-09-2007
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Posted by Tomes on July 9, 2007, 5:25 pm
Folks,
It was easy for me to replace the ceiling fan/light in the upstairs
bathroom as I could attack if from the attic, where everything was right
there and open for me. I now would like to do the same with the ceiling
fan/light in the downstairs bathroom (1st floor), but my problem is that I
don't have the handy attic to get at it from. I took off the cover from
the existing light/fan, and I see the box, which is about the same size as
the hole cut in the wallboard ceiling. I just do not see how I can get
the box out without ripping apart the ceiling. I would really like to be
able to do this without messing with the ceiling wall if I can.

What to do? Has anyone done this and what was your strategy?
Thanks for any help here,
Tomes



Posted by RBM on July 9, 2007, 6:55 pm
It largely depends upon the height of the ceiling beams and the height of
the fan. If you have 2x10 beams, and the fan is no more than 10 inches high,
you can remove the existing unit by beating it toward it's center, then
dropping it straight down. Make sure the new fan is the same size or
slightly larger, and square or rectangle, and has the ability to be screwed
through the interior side wall of the unit into the ceiling beam to secure
it. Cut the opening so the unit can pass straight up into the
ceiling,(without the duct connector piece attached) Connect the wiring to
the unit and push it into the ceiling and slide it to one side so you can
attach the duct adapter, then attach the duct, then position the unit flush
with the ceiling finish and screw it to the beam. One more thing, its
important to install the side of the unit opposite the duct adapter flush
against the ceiling beam


> Folks,
> It was easy for me to replace the ceiling fan/light in the upstairs
> bathroom as I could attack if from the attic, where everything was right
> there and open for me. I now would like to do the same with the ceiling
> fan/light in the downstairs bathroom (1st floor), but my problem is that I
> don't have the handy attic to get at it from. I took off the cover from
> the existing light/fan, and I see the box, which is about the same size as
> the hole cut in the wallboard ceiling. I just do not see how I can get
> the box out without ripping apart the ceiling. I would really like to be
> able to do this without messing with the ceiling wall if I can.
>
> What to do? Has anyone done this and what was your strategy?
> Thanks for any help here,
> Tomes
>
>



Posted by John Grabowski on July 9, 2007, 9:41 pm

> It largely depends upon the height of the ceiling beams and the height of
> the fan. If you have 2x10 beams, and the fan is no more than 10 inches
high,
> you can remove the existing unit by beating it toward it's center, then
> dropping it straight down. Make sure the new fan is the same size or
> slightly larger, and square or rectangle, and has the ability to be
screwed
> through the interior side wall of the unit into the ceiling beam to secure
> it. Cut the opening so the unit can pass straight up into the
> ceiling,(without the duct connector piece attached) Connect the wiring to
> the unit and push it into the ceiling and slide it to one side so you can
> attach the duct adapter, then attach the duct, then position the unit
flush
> with the ceiling finish and screw it to the beam. One more thing, its
> important to install the side of the unit opposite the duct adapter flush
> against the ceiling beam
>
>
> > Folks,
> > It was easy for me to replace the ceiling fan/light in the upstairs
> > bathroom as I could attack if from the attic, where everything was right
> > there and open for me. I now would like to do the same with the ceiling
> > fan/light in the downstairs bathroom (1st floor), but my problem is that
I
> > don't have the handy attic to get at it from. I took off the cover from
> > the existing light/fan, and I see the box, which is about the same size
as
> > the hole cut in the wallboard ceiling. I just do not see how I can get
> > the box out without ripping apart the ceiling. I would really like to
be
> > able to do this without messing with the ceiling wall if I can.
> >
> > What to do? Has anyone done this and what was your strategy?
> > Thanks for any help here,
> > Tomes


I have found that the Panasonic fans are good for retrofits. In some cases
it is possible to install a new Panasonic without damaging the ceiling to
the extent that it needs patching. One of the difficult tasks with
retrofits is trying to connect the duct and then install the fan. The duct
connection on the Panasonic fans is a separate piece that can be connected
to the fan housing from inside of the housing. Of course you will need to
use flex duct.


Posted by on July 10, 2007, 8:46 am

> Folks,
> It was easy for me to replace the ceiling fan/light in the upstairs
> bathroom as I could attack if from the attic, where everything was right
> there and open for me. I now would like to do the same with the ceiling
> fan/light in the downstairs bathroom (1st floor), but my problem is that I
> don't have the handy attic to get at it from. I took off the cover from
> the existing light/fan, and I see the box, which is about the same size as
> the hole cut in the wallboard ceiling. I just do not see how I can get
> the box out without ripping apart the ceiling. I would really like to be
> able to do this without messing with the ceiling wall if I can.
>
> What to do? Has anyone done this and what was your strategy?
> Thanks for any help here,
> Tomes
>
I had the same problem, and there was just no way around it. I ended up with
a 9"x9" hole, which I patched by putting in two narrow boards between the
studs and screwing a piece of drywall to each board. Some tape, compound,
and sanding, and it looks perfect. Pain in the ass, but not difficult.



Posted by Tomes on July 10, 2007, 10:11 am
<h> ...
> "Tomes" ...
>> Folks,
>> It was easy for me to replace the ceiling fan/light in the upstairs
>> bathroom as I could attack if from the attic, where everything was
>> right
>> there and open for me. I now would like to do the same with the
>> ceiling
>> fan/light in the downstairs bathroom (1st floor), but my problem is
>> that I
>> don't have the handy attic to get at it from. I took off the cover
>> from
>> the existing light/fan, and I see the box, which is about the same size
>> as
>> the hole cut in the wallboard ceiling. I just do not see how I can get
>> the box out without ripping apart the ceiling. I would really like to
>> be
>> able to do this without messing with the ceiling wall if I can.
>>
>> What to do? Has anyone done this and what was your strategy?
>> Thanks for any help here,
>> Tomes
>>
> I had the same problem, and there was just no way around it. I ended up
> with a 9"x9" hole, which I patched by putting in two narrow boards
> between the studs and screwing a piece of drywall to each board. Some
> tape, compound, and sanding, and it looks perfect. Pain in the ass, but
> not difficult.
>
Thanks to the three of you folks so far. My first problem is how to get
the old box out. The ceiling is cut so it will slip down through the hole
OK, and if I mess up the ceiling a little bit around the edges it is OK as
the new fixture covers up more ceiling than the old one, I just need a
strategy on removing that box from the beams. Maybe grind off the nail
heads? Anyone tried that?

The thought on sliding the new box in there sideways to re-attach the
existing duct is the strategy I plan to use for that, thanks.
Cheers,
Tomes



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