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Replacing Hollow Doors with Slabs Bernie Hunt 06-30-2008
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Posted by Bernie Hunt on June 30, 2008, 7:56 pm
I have a 1951 vintage house and I've started a campaign to change all the
hollow core doors to 6 panel doors. Because of various settling and trim
issues, I've decided to change the doors only and not the frames.

The original trim carpenter did a great job. The side to side gaps are 1/32
or less. Obviously the doors are heavily beveled to make this possible.
Unfortunately over the years, various home owners have taken their toll on
the top and bottoms of the doors. The worse offender is the 1 3/4" gap at
the bottom of a closet door, that is off square by over 1/2" across the face
of the door.

My question, a couple of the frames are out of square by 1/4" over 18".
Should I hang the doors square, or make the gap fit the frame?

Second question, what is the normal door gap? Should I be shooting for 1/8"
on the sides and top? For the bottom I'm using 1/2" off the flooring.

Thanks,
Bernie



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Posted by aemeijers on June 30, 2008, 8:13 pm
Bernie Hunt wrote:
> I have a 1951 vintage house and I've started a campaign to change all the
> hollow core doors to 6 panel doors. Because of various settling and trim
> issues, I've decided to change the doors only and not the frames.
>
> The original trim carpenter did a great job. The side to side gaps are 1/32
> or less. Obviously the doors are heavily beveled to make this possible.
> Unfortunately over the years, various home owners have taken their toll on
> the top and bottoms of the doors. The worse offender is the 1 3/4" gap at
> the bottom of a closet door, that is off square by over 1/2" across the face
> of the door.
>
> My question, a couple of the frames are out of square by 1/4" over 18".
> Should I hang the doors square, or make the gap fit the frame?
>
> Second question, what is the normal door gap? Should I be shooting for 1/8"
> on the sides and top? For the bottom I'm using 1/2" off the flooring.
>
> Thanks,
> Bernie
>
>
They had hollow-core doors in 1951? I thought those were a late-50s
innovation. All the houses I've ever seen that are older than me (a 1956
model), had paneled doors.

--
aem sends...

Posted by Bernie Hunt on June 30, 2008, 8:18 pm
I'll be glad to send you a few if you like, hahaha.

Bernie

> Bernie Hunt wrote:
>> I have a 1951 vintage house and I've started a campaign to change all the
>> hollow core doors to 6 panel doors. Because of various settling and trim
>> issues, I've decided to change the doors only and not the frames.
>>
>> The original trim carpenter did a great job. The side to side gaps are
>> 1/32 or less. Obviously the doors are heavily beveled to make this
>> possible. Unfortunately over the years, various home owners have taken
>> their toll on the top and bottoms of the doors. The worse offender is the
>> 1 3/4" gap at the bottom of a closet door, that is off square by over
>> 1/2" across the face of the door.
>>
>> My question, a couple of the frames are out of square by 1/4" over 18".
>> Should I hang the doors square, or make the gap fit the frame?
>>
>> Second question, what is the normal door gap? Should I be shooting for
>> 1/8" on the sides and top? For the bottom I'm using 1/2" off the
>> flooring.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bernie
>>
>>
> They had hollow-core doors in 1951? I thought those were a late-50s
> innovation. All the houses I've ever seen that are older than me (a 1956
> model), had paneled doors.
>
> --
> aem sends...



Posted by franz fripplfrappl on June 30, 2008, 8:42 pm
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:56:07 -0400, Bernie Hunt wrote:

> I have a 1951 vintage house and I've started a campaign to change all
> the hollow core doors to 6 panel doors. Because of various settling and
> trim issues, I've decided to change the doors only and not the frames.
>
> The original trim carpenter did a great job. The side to side gaps are
> 1/32 or less. Obviously the doors are heavily beveled to make this
> possible. Unfortunately over the years, various home owners have taken
> their toll on the top and bottoms of the doors. The worse offender is
> the 1 3/4" gap at the bottom of a closet door, that is off square by
> over 1/2" across the face of the door.
>
> My question, a couple of the frames are out of square by 1/4" over 18".
> Should I hang the doors square, or make the gap fit the frame?
>
> Second question, what is the normal door gap? Should I be shooting for
> 1/8" on the sides and top? For the bottom I'm using 1/2" off the
> flooring.
>
> Thanks,
> Bernie

If you can, get the jambs square. It seems that it would be easier to
square the jambs than to make the door fit an opening which is not.

I just measured some prehungs in my circa 1990 vintage house. There
appears to be about 1/16" clearance at the hinge and 3/16" at the latch.
The top is 3/16" and the bottom just brushes across the carpet.

I suspect the bottom dimension is a personal choice: whatever looks good
yet remains functional.

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=================================================
Franz Fripplfrappl

Posted by RicodJour on June 30, 2008, 11:37 pm
> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:56:07 -0400, Bernie Hunt wrote:
> > I have a 1951 vintage house and I've started a campaign to change all
> > the hollow core doors to 6 panel doors. Because of various settling and
> > trim issues, I've decided to change the doors only and not the frames.
>
> > The original trim carpenter did a great job. The side to side gaps are
> > 1/32 or less. Obviously the doors are heavily beveled to make this
> > possible. Unfortunately over the years, various home owners have taken
> > their toll on the top and bottoms of the doors. The worse offender is
> > the 1 3/4" gap at the bottom of a closet door, that is off square by
> > over 1/2" across the face of the door.
>
> > My question, a couple of the frames are out of square by 1/4" over 18".
> > Should I hang the doors square, or make the gap fit the frame?
>
> > Second question, what is the normal door gap? Should I be shooting for
> > 1/8" on the sides and top? For the bottom I'm using 1/2" off the
> > flooring.
>
> > Thanks,
> > Bernie
>
> If you can, get the jambs square. It seems that it would be easier to
> square the jambs than to make the door fit an opening which is not.
>
> I just measured some prehungs in my circa 1990 vintage house. There
> appears to be about 1/16" clearance at the hinge and 3/16" at the latch.
> The top is 3/16" and the bottom just brushes across the carpet.

3/16" is a little large - 1/8" is a nice figure to shoot for.

> I suspect the bottom dimension is a personal choice: whatever looks good
> yet remains functional.

Not always. If the house has central heat via ductwork and a central
return it's a good idea to leave a bit of a gap at the bottom to
facilitate air movement.

R

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