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Replacing original aluminum windows Texas Yankee 06-25-2006
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Posted by Texas Yankee on June 25, 2006, 8:22 pm
I think I'm up to replacing the original aluminum windows in my 25
year-old-house (Texas) with energy efficient vinal replacement windows - the
exterior around some windows is brick, some have siding around them. I'm
wondering about the best way to get the old windows out - some of the folks
I've talked with say (after getting the glass out) to just use a saws-all to
cut through the nailing strips around the old windows behind the exterior
surface and take out the window - some of the "Instalation Guides" I've seen
talk about "collapsing the old window frame" (after getting the old glass
out), but I don't understand howe I'm gonna collapse the old window frame if
it's got nailing strips nailed into the woode frame all around the window.
Any suggestions? Thank!



Posted by Eric in North TX on June 25, 2006, 8:28 pm

Texas Yankee wrote:
> I think I'm up to replacing the original aluminum windows in my 25
> year-old-house (Texas) with energy efficient vinyl replacement windows - the
> exterior around some windows is brick, some have siding around them. I'm
> wondering about the best way to get the old windows out - some of the folks
> I've talked with say (after getting the glass out) to just use a saws-all to
> cut through the nailing strips around the old windows behind the exterior
> surface and take out the window - some of the "Installation Guides" I've seen
> talk about "collapsing the old window frame" (after getting the old glass
> out), but I don't understand how I'm gonna collapse the old window frame if
> it's got nailing strips nailed into the Woodie frame all around the window.
> Any suggestions? Thank!

When I had mine done the crew did pretty much what you describe, took
out the glass and used a wonder-bar to fold the frame. There were a few
I wanted to keep, and they did the other method you suggest with the
sawzall. I've pulled a few windows and doors that way, just use a metal
cutting blade and as you go around you can feel the nails and screws,
with a new blade they really don't put up much of a fight.


Posted by Texas Yankee on June 25, 2006, 8:37 pm
Thanks for the info - I don't understand something you said - "used a
wonder-bar to fold the frame" - when you're collapsing the frame without
cutting the nailing strips, what happens to the nailing strips - is there
any damage to the surrounding frame, where the nailing strips are attached?

Thanks!

>
> Texas Yankee wrote:
>> I think I'm up to replacing the original aluminum windows in my 25
>> year-old-house (Texas) with energy efficient vinyl replacement windows -
>> the
>> exterior around some windows is brick, some have siding around them. I'm
>> wondering about the best way to get the old windows out - some of the
>> folks
>> I've talked with say (after getting the glass out) to just use a saws-all
>> to
>> cut through the nailing strips around the old windows behind the exterior
>> surface and take out the window - some of the "Installation Guides" I've
>> seen
>> talk about "collapsing the old window frame" (after getting the old glass
>> out), but I don't understand how I'm gonna collapse the old window frame
>> if
>> it's got nailing strips nailed into the Woodie frame all around the
>> window.
>> Any suggestions? Thank!
>
> When I had mine done the crew did pretty much what you describe, took
> out the glass and used a wonder-bar to fold the frame. There were a few
> I wanted to keep, and they did the other method you suggest with the
> sawzall. I've pulled a few windows and doors that way, just use a metal
> cutting blade and as you go around you can feel the nails and screws,
> with a new blade they really don't put up much of a fight.
>



Posted by Eric in North TX on June 25, 2006, 9:02 pm

Texas Yankee wrote:
> Thanks for the info - I don't understand something you said - "used a
> wonder-bar to fold the frame" - when you're collapsing the frame without
> cutting the nailing strips, what happens to the nailing strips - is there
> any damage to the surrounding frame, where the nailing strips are attached?

Usually a window frame is made from 2 X 4s when the house is built,
that would be the "nailing strips". Surprizingly little usually holds
the windows in place, once the inside trim is removed. Little damage is
done usually, but is you sazall them out you might be able to sell them
for use in a workshop or something and recoup some of your cost. I
didn't mention it before but the removal is an inside job, remove the
trim and there should be about a 1/2" gap around the windows with a few
shims used to square things up when they were installed.


Posted by Texas Yankee on June 25, 2006, 10:41 pm
I'm not interested in salvaging the old windows - I'm still having a hard
time understanding what happens to the nailing strips - the "fins" that are
part of the aluminum window frame that get nailed to the wooden window
framing before the siding or brick is placed as veneer - if I collapse the
existing frames, do the nailing strips just teat our with little or no
damage to the wood surrounding the window? Thanks!
>
> Texas Yankee wrote:
>> Thanks for the info - I don't understand something you said - "used a
>> wonder-bar to fold the frame" - when you're collapsing the frame without
>> cutting the nailing strips, what happens to the nailing strips - is there
>> any damage to the surrounding frame, where the nailing strips are
>> attached?
>
> Usually a window frame is made from 2 X 4s when the house is built,
> that would be the "nailing strips". Surprizingly little usually holds
> the windows in place, once the inside trim is removed. Little damage is
> done usually, but is you sazall them out you might be able to sell them
> for use in a workshop or something and recoup some of your cost. I
> didn't mention it before but the removal is an inside job, remove the
> trim and there should be about a 1/2" gap around the windows with a few
> shims used to square things up when they were installed.
>



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