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Posted by KLS on November 10, 2007, 5:29 pm
>says...
>>I mean no disrepect to any one who works outside in the winter. Heck,
>>I spent a year in AK and replaced many a runway light and repaired
>>cables cut by the snowplows during the dead of winter. That said,
>>given the choice, I would have rather done the work in April instead
>>of February.
>
>Sure. But no reason for her to wait. If *she* had a reason to wait, it would
>be different. But it's not that - she just wants to know if the job can really
>be done well in the wintertime.
We have roofs (rooves?) done in western New York through December
routinely, but I do agree with DerbyDad that for a job like that,
warmer weather is preferable for reasons of product performance. I
can't think of any other jobs besides painting that can't be done in
winter, worker comfort notwithstanding. We had our back porch closed
in during March, when the temps were pretty cold and snow was coming
down, and it has worked out well, including the four windows that were
installed. The contractor was suppose to do it in December, but got
delayed. Now I just gotta get my gutter shields (box rescued from the
neighbor's trash!) installed in the next couple of weeks, before the
weather really turns bitter.
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Posted by Sam Small on November 10, 2007, 5:56 pm
"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
> I just came in from raking the leaves on a damp and chilly November
> afternoon. Had it been nicer, I would have stayed out longer and
> probably done a better job. Due to the weather, I did a "good enough"
> job. Do I want my windows installed "good enough" or do I want a
> contractor that is in a good mood, enjoying life and more apt to
> notice the little things like a piece of trim out of place or a
> section of caulk that could be fixed, but doesn't really have to be?
If you get a contractor that will hack the job in the winter, there's
absolutely no guarantee, they will not hack it on more pleasant days. A
good installer will be a good installer, no matter the weather. Your
assumption that everyone does things like you do, is way off base.
> She already has a contract, which should give her a little priority
> with the contractor, so it can't hurt to make the phone call and ask
> if she can be rescheduled. It's obvious from the OP's statements that
> time is not of the essence. As I said before, if the job is done in
> the spring, any cold weather issues, perceived or actual, simply
> wouldn't exist.
That would be absurd, considering she could start saving energy and money
this winter.
No offense, but you have some crazy ideas running around in your head.
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Posted by DerbyDad03 on November 10, 2007, 8:01 pm
> "DerbyDad03" wrote in message
> > I just came in from raking the leaves on a damp and chilly November
> > afternoon. Had it been nicer, I would have stayed out longer and
> > probably done a better job. Due to the weather, I did a "good enough"
> > job. Do I want my windows installed "good enough" or do I want a
> > contractor that is in a good mood, enjoying life and more apt to
> > notice the little things like a piece of trim out of place or a
> > section of caulk that could be fixed, but doesn't really have to be?
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> If you get a contractor that will hack the job in the winter, there's
> absolutely no guarantee, they will not hack it on more pleasant days. A
> good installer will be a good installer, no matter the weather. Your
> assumption that everyone does things like you do, is way off base.
Why is everyone going to extremes with their responses?
I say a spring day, it turns into 90 degrees. I mention letting little
things go because it's cold, you turn it into a hack job.
There's a big difference between doing a "good enough" job and taking
it to the next level. I'm sure you will agree that there are
contractors out there that will do a "good enough" job in the best of
weather and those that will go above and beyond. Neither of them is a
hack. All I'm saying is that in inclement weather, a worker may decide
to let some little things go that he might not otherwise. For example,
they might decide not to reposition that piece of trim that's covered
with ice when they just might have done it on a sunny day. That
certainly wouldn't be a hack job, merely "good enough".
As far as "doing things the way I do", you are right, most people
don't. When I told the guy that I bought my windows from (a
contractors supply house) what I did with the external trim after I
removed the storms, he told me that if I had hired the job out, few,
if any, contractors would have taken the time to do what I did. What
they would have done instead would have been "good enough" (i.e.
perfectly acceptable) but I took it to the next level. If I was doing
my windows in January, I too might have stopped at "good enough",
because there would have been nothing wrong with that method. There
was, however, a *better* way which I was willing to spend the time, in
nice weather, doing. That's all I'm saying. I'm not calling anybody a
hack, I'm simply saying that they just might want to get each window
closed up a little sooner in January than in April.
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> > She already has a contract, which should give her a little priority
> > with the contractor, so it can't hurt to make the phone call and ask
> > if she can be rescheduled. It's obvious from the OP's statements that
> > time is not of the essence. As I said before, if the job is done in
> > the spring, any cold weather issues, perceived or actual, simply
> > wouldn't exist.
> That would be absurd, considering she could start saving energy and money
> this winter.
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True...and it's up to the OP to decide if the savings is worth the
worry, whether that worry is justified or not. That's a point I've
been trying to make all along: If the OP is at all worried about
whether the job should be done in the winter, then the money spent on
heating the house for a few extra months might be a price she's
willing to pay for piece of mind.
-- No offense, but you have some crazy ideas running around in your
head.
No offense taken...unless, of course, you meant to offend.
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Posted by on November 10, 2007, 12:42 pm
wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I need some advice. I should have done this sooner but just thought
>about it.
>
>I just signed a contract to have my windows replaced. I spent all
>summer researching windows and also changing my mind a billion times
>about what options I wanted. So, it's now mid-November and I finally
>got it all figured out and signed a contract. I live in New Jersey.
>The job will start within approximately 8 weeks. (It's a fairly big
>job cuz it's an old house and there will be different windows/options,
>even the front door). Anyway, 8 weeks would mean this will be done
>sometime around early January - middle of winter. Now I think maybe
>that's a stupid thing. I've never owned a house before so I don't know
>what I'm doing. Is it stupid to have this done in the winter? I mean,
>aside from the house getting cold and the inconvenience, is there
>something else I should know? Like, might there be installation issues
>or problems that only occur when installing in the winter that don't
>occur in the warmer months? Anything I should be looking out for???
>
>Thanks.
>
>New-to-home-ownership.
I changed windows last January. I had windows 2000 and changed to
windows XP. My house never got cold from doing it, and there were no
other problems except that I could not get on the internet for a
couple hours. The only installation issues I had was that it said I
should have more memory. I already know that, because I am always
forgetting where I leave my keys and wallet.
Norman T.
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Posted by Tony Hwang on November 10, 2007, 12:46 pm
normant36002@no-mail.com wrote:
> wrote:
>
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>I need some advice. I should have done this sooner but just thought
>>about it.
>>
>>I just signed a contract to have my windows replaced. I spent all
>>summer researching windows and also changing my mind a billion times
>>about what options I wanted. So, it's now mid-November and I finally
>>got it all figured out and signed a contract. I live in New Jersey.
>>The job will start within approximately 8 weeks. (It's a fairly big
>>job cuz it's an old house and there will be different windows/options,
>>even the front door). Anyway, 8 weeks would mean this will be done
>>sometime around early January - middle of winter. Now I think maybe
>>that's a stupid thing. I've never owned a house before so I don't know
>>what I'm doing. Is it stupid to have this done in the winter? I mean,
>>aside from the house getting cold and the inconvenience, is there
>>something else I should know? Like, might there be installation issues
>>or problems that only occur when installing in the winter that don't
>>occur in the warmer months? Anything I should be looking out for???
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>New-to-home-ownership.
>
>
> I changed windows last January. I had windows 2000 and changed to
> windows XP. My house never got cold from doing it, and there were no
> other problems except that I could not get on the internet for a
> couple hours. The only installation issues I had was that it said I
> should have more memory. I already know that, because I am always
> forgetting where I leave my keys and wallet.
>
> Norman T.
Hi,
Better be XP Pro, LOL!
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