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Posted by LJ on August 26, 2006, 1:28 am
I need to replace several sections of "stockade" type wood privacy
fence. They are rotted and falling apart. I've tried temp fixes, but
they're so bad there's nothing for screw or nails to grab onto.
The posts seem okay, I can't rock them at all, and they are solid at
ground level (tried stabbing them with a screwdriver). So it seems to
be just the picket sections that are bad.
Is this something a lone female can accomplish? I can handle tools,
repairs, etc, but my main problem with projects is having the muscle.
Or would this be a two person job?
Also, would it be better to use screws to attach the new sections, or
is that overkill, and nails are enough?
I would like to say thanks for all the good folks that take time to
answer here. This group has helped me in many ways since becoming a
single homeowner four years ago. When I was married, my ex and I
worked on many projects together. However of course I've come across
projects on my older house that were never an issue when married. This
group is a great source of info.
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Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on August 26, 2006, 8:55 am
> The posts seem okay, I can't rock them at all, and they are solid at
> ground level (tried stabbing them with a screwdriver). So it seems to
> be just the picket sections that are bad.
>
> Is this something a lone female can accomplish? I can handle tools,
> repairs, etc, but my main problem with projects is having the muscle.
> Or would this be a two person job?
Are you going to rebuild from scratch or put in pre-fabricated sections?
Either way, it would be hand to have a helper to hodl things. If yo are
putting in sections, I'd definitly want someone to give a hand. The size
adn weight makes it awkward to handle for one person. Propping up on blocks
may help though.
>
> Also, would it be better to use screws to attach the new sections, or
> is that overkill, and nails are enough?
I'd use stainless screws.
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Posted by LJ on August 26, 2006, 7:10 pm
I'm still undecided about buying prefab sections or not. If I go with
sections, they cost more & I'll have to pay for delivery. If I buy the
pieces, can probably get them home in my car, even if I have to make 2
trips.....there's 2 home stores within 3 miles of my house. But then,
I'm out of work at the moment, so I have more time than money right
now, LOL.
Just for the heck of it, here's some pix. First the entire fence:
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6561/fence1mk6.jpg
The big old tree causes the most problems. It loses dead
branches/limbs during every t-storm, and many times the branches take
out a piece of the fence. If the fence wasn't rotted, it would prolly
hold up better. Also, it clogs the garage gutters and the shade lets
moss grow on north-facing side of garage roof. Ideally, it's time to
take out the tree, but that's way beyond my budget.
Close-up example of rot:
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2605/fence2nn9.jpg
All the pickets are soft like this. I am guessing the original wood
was not pressure treated. I have no idea of fence age; the city has no
permit records showing a fence. Last permit issued was 1964, to build
the garage.....I checked into this before I bought the place. These
days, fences require a permit.
For a laugh, here's one of my ugly temp fixes. I used some scrap house
trim left in garage by previous owner. I broke it into small pieces
along the finger joints. Now I know why guys like to save leftover
wood....these spare pieces are a lifesaver!
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/9666/fence3ld6.jpg
This fix is ugly, but it works and it's on my side, so my neighbors
don't have to look at it. Also, I learned frrom my ex and other men I
know...when I became single and bought this place, on speculation I
kept most of the wood scraps that were left here.
Now I understand there's a "method to the madness". I've used scrap
wood, wire & metal for all sorts of things in the last few years. So
all you hoarders have a convert, ha ha.
wrote:
>
>> The posts seem okay, I can't rock them at all, and they are solid at
>> ground level (tried stabbing them with a screwdriver). So it seems to
>> be just the picket sections that are bad.
>>
>> Is this something a lone female can accomplish? I can handle tools,
>> repairs, etc, but my main problem with projects is having the muscle.
>> Or would this be a two person job?
>
>Are you going to rebuild from scratch or put in pre-fabricated sections?
>Either way, it would be hand to have a helper to hodl things. If yo are
>putting in sections, I'd definitly want someone to give a hand. The size
>adn weight makes it awkward to handle for one person. Propping up on blocks
>may help though.
>
>
>>
>> Also, would it be better to use screws to attach the new sections, or
>> is that overkill, and nails are enough?
>
>I'd use stainless screws.
>
>
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Posted by Tom Kendrick on August 26, 2006, 10:28 am
This will be quicker with another person to help but it can be done
solo using screws and nails. Use short blocks of 2x4 in place of the
other person.
Working one section at a time, screw the blocks to the posts just
below the horizontal stringer boards. Remove everything except the
posts.
Obtain new stringer boards to span the gap between the posts and rest
on the blocks. Screw the boards to the posts and remove the blocks.
For an 8' gap, you need about 25 1x4x6 pickets. Have these delivered.
Using a level, re-install the pickets with 5-penny galvanized,
ring-shank nails. Done
>I need to replace several sections of "stockade" type wood privacy
>fence. They are rotted and falling apart. I've tried temp fixes, but
>they're so bad there's nothing for screw or nails to grab onto.
>
>The posts seem okay, I can't rock them at all, and they are solid at
>ground level (tried stabbing them with a screwdriver). So it seems to
>be just the picket sections that are bad.
>
>Is this something a lone female can accomplish? I can handle tools,
>repairs, etc, but my main problem with projects is having the muscle.
>Or would this be a two person job?
>
>Also, would it be better to use screws to attach the new sections, or
>is that overkill, and nails are enough?
>
>I would like to say thanks for all the good folks that take time to
>answer here. This group has helped me in many ways since becoming a
>single homeowner four years ago. When I was married, my ex and I
>worked on many projects together. However of course I've come across
>projects on my older house that were never an issue when married. This
>group is a great source of info.
>
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Posted by LJ on August 26, 2006, 5:34 pm
Great idea, using the chunks of 2x4 to mark the spot and support new
stringers, thanks.
You also made me realize that 4" wide pickets would go up faster,
versus the 2.5 inch pickets that are there now. Since I'm replacing
the entire fence, no reason to stay with same size.
Any opinions on plastic lumber/vinyl fence products? I realize they
cost more, are they worth it compared to pressure-treated standard
wood?
wrote:
>This will be quicker with another person to help but it can be done
>solo using screws and nails. Use short blocks of 2x4 in place of the
>other person.
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