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Requesting help for AO Smith Water Heater... Greg 10-30-2009
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Posted by hallerb@aol.com on October 31, 2009, 10:24 am


> > Hi,
> > I own a condominium which uses a AO Smith Natural Gas Model FPS 40 216
> > Water Heater. I imagine it was installed at the time the condo was
> > built which would be around 1989. The pilot lights fine but I am
> > having a problem with the burner igniting. I've tried the instructions
> > listed on the barrel which explain how to jump start the pilot but it
> > doesn't work.
> > Can someone direct me to something online or recommend a local service
> > center for doing basic repairs? Seems like something simple but I
> > would like to know any options I have before investing in a new model.
> > Thanks in advance for your assistance.
> > -Greg
> I lightly wack the gas valve with a piece of wood on my boiler every
> fall since it sticks, its not the safest thing to do if something is
> rotted and breaks.

some water heaters have a one shot overheat protrection built into the
main control;.

if temp runaway occurs, burner is permanetely disabled.

20 year old heater time for replacement.

the new one will be much more energy efficent and safer sealed burners,

Posted by on October 31, 2009, 12:28 pm


> > > Hi,
> > > I own a condominium which uses a AO Smith Natural Gas Model FPS 40 21=
6
> > > Water Heater. I imagine it was installed at the time the condo was
> > > built which would be around 1989. The pilot lights fine but I am
> > > having a problem with the burner igniting. I've tried the instruction=
s
> > > listed on the barrel which explain how to jump start the pilot but it
> > > doesn't work.
> > > Can someone direct me to something online or recommend a local servic=
e
> > > center for doing basic repairs? Seems like something simple but I
> > > would like to know any options I have before investing in a new model=
.
> > > Thanks in advance for your assistance.
> > > -Greg
> > I lightly wack the gas valve with a piece of wood on my boiler every
> > fall since it sticks, its not the safest thing to do if something is
> > rotted and breaks.
> some water heaters have a one shot overheat protrection built into the
> main control;.
> if temp runaway occurs, burner is permanetely disabled.
> 20 year old heater time for replacement.
> the new one will be much more energy efficent and safer sealed burners,- =
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> - Show quoted text -


By saying the pilot lights fine, do you mean it STAYS lit when you
release the valve and move it to the ON position? If it then goes
out, it's most likely the thermocouple. If the pilot remains lit,
then it's likely the gas control valve assembly is shot.

In any case, if it's the thermocouple, you could replace it for about
$12 and it could be OK for a quick temporary solution. The gas valve
assembley costs more like $70 or so. And as someone already pointed
out, a 20 year old gas water heater should be REPLACED ASAP. A life
of 12 years of so is typical and you're definitely pushing your luck.

Posted by hallerb@aol.com on October 31, 2009, 12:53 pm


On Oct 31, 12:28=EF=BF=BDpm, trad...@optonline.net wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I own a condominium which uses a AO Smith Natural Gas Model FPS 40 =
216
> > > > Water Heater. I imagine it was installed at the time the condo was
> > > > built which would be around 1989. The pilot lights fine but I am
> > > > having a problem with the burner igniting. I've tried the instructi=
ons
> > > > listed on the barrel which explain how to jump start the pilot but =
it
> > > > doesn't work.
> > > > Can someone direct me to something online or recommend a local serv=
ice
> > > > center for doing basic repairs? Seems like something simple but I
> > > > would like to know any options I have before investing in a new mod=
el.
> > > > Thanks in advance for your assistance.
> > > > -Greg
> > > I lightly wack the gas valve with a piece of wood on my boiler every
> > > fall since it sticks, its not the safest thing to do if something is
> > > rotted and breaks.
> > some water heaters have a one shot overheat protrection built into the
> > main control;.
> > if temp runaway occurs, burner is permanetely disabled.
> > 20 year old heater time for replacement.
> > the new one will be much more energy efficent and safer sealed burners,=
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> > - Show quoted text -
> By saying the pilot lights fine, do you mean it STAYS lit when you
> release the valve and move it to the ON position? =EF=BF=BD If it then go=
es
> out, it's most likely the thermocouple. =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDIf the pilot r=
emains lit,
> then it's likely the gas control valve assembly is shot.
> In any case, if it's the thermocouple, you could replace it for about
> $12 and it could be OK for a quick temporary solution. =EF=BF=BD The gas =
valve
> assembley costs more like $70 or so. =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDAnd as someone al=
ready pointed
> out, a 20 year old gas water heater should be REPLACED ASAP. =EF=BF=BD A =
life
> of 12 years of so is typical and you're definitely pushing your luck.- Hi=
de quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -

you REALLY dont want to even think of replacing main gas valve........

disturbing such a old heater, even if you get them old valve out, the
new one will likely leak soon

Posted by Greg on November 2, 2009, 12:06 pm


Hi,

I appreciate all of the responses. It would seem 20 years is beyond
the life expectancy for most hot water heaters. I am currently
researching and budgeting for a replacement however in the meantime I
would like to get this old one going if the costs are between $25 to
$50.

BTW, I live in North Haven, CT USA. Apologizes for failing to mention
this in my original post.


Greg
> Hi,
> I own a condominium which uses a AO Smith Natural Gas Model FPS 40 216Wat=
erHeater. I imagine it was installed at the time the condo was
> built which would be around 1989. The pilot lights fine but I am
> having a problem with the burner igniting. I've tried the instructions
> listed on the barrel which explain how to jump start the pilot but it
> doesn't work.
> Can someone direct me to something online or recommend a local service
> center for doing basic repairs? Seems like something simple but I
> would like to know any options I have before investing in a new model.
> Thanks in advance for your assistance.
> -Greg


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