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Rewiring and junction boxes jimbob 10-13-2006
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Posted by Tim Fischer on October 15, 2006, 8:51 pm



> After reading your responses it seems that there is nothing inherantly
> unsafe or wrong about using junction boxes. The problem seems to be
> creating inaccessible splices that could fail later on and be difficult
> to find.

Just to be clear, inaccessible splices are a code vio. If you finish the
basement, each of these j-boxes will need covers that will be visible (so as
to be accessible) when the room is finished.

-Tim



Posted by Chris Lewis on October 16, 2006, 1:48 pm



> > After reading your responses it seems that there is nothing inherantly
> > unsafe or wrong about using junction boxes. The problem seems to be
> > creating inaccessible splices that could fail later on and be difficult
> > to find.
>
> Just to be clear, inaccessible splices are a code vio. If you finish the
> basement, each of these j-boxes will need covers that will be visible (so as
> to be accessible) when the room is finished.

Accessible doesn't necessarily mean _visible_. Accessible means
that it can be "got at" without removing permanent parts of the
building.

A J box behind drywall is bad. A J box hidden by a wall mirror,
or behind a removable panel etc is fine.

[We "hid" a Jbox behind a recessed lighting fixture that was
held in place by its bezel. Pop the fixture, and the
box is accessible. Perfectly acceptable.]
--
Chris Lewis, Una confibula non set est
It's not just anyone who gets a Starship Cruiser class named after them.

Posted by Tim Fischer on October 16, 2006, 6:52 pm



> Accessible doesn't necessarily mean _visible_. Accessible means
> that it can be "got at" without removing permanent parts of the
> building.

True. But he's gonna have a hard time hiding a box every 6-12 feet near
ceiling level. I guess I'm picturing blank covers all over the place...

-Tim



Posted by Goedjn on October 17, 2006, 11:19 am


On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:52:20 -0500, "Tim Fischer"

>
>> Accessible doesn't necessarily mean _visible_. Accessible means
>> that it can be "got at" without removing permanent parts of the
>> building.
>
>True. But he's gonna have a hard time hiding a box every 6-12 feet near
>ceiling level. I guess I'm picturing blank covers all over the place...

If you're gonna put J boxes up, you might as well stick outlets
in them. Ceiling level outlet are occasionally handy.
>


Posted by Mark Lloyd on October 17, 2006, 2:26 pm



>On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:52:20 -0500, "Tim Fischer"
>
>>
>>> Accessible doesn't necessarily mean _visible_. Accessible means
>>> that it can be "got at" without removing permanent parts of the
>>> building.
>>
>>True. But he's gonna have a hard time hiding a box every 6-12 feet near
>>ceiling level. I guess I'm picturing blank covers all over the place...
>
>If you're gonna put J boxes up, you might as well stick outlets
>in them. Ceiling level outlet are occasionally handy.
>>

Yes, as are outlets at switch height. They don't get hidden behind
things as easily as those close to the floor, and are easier to reach.
--
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Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"God was invented by man for a reason, that
reason is no longer applicable."

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