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Rewiring older home Alex 04-15-2007
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Posted by Tim Smith on April 16, 2007, 10:34 pm


> By the way, I discovered that those plug-in
> "grounding tester" thingies don't always test that
> an outlet is wired correctly.
>
> I found an outlet where the ground pin and the "neutral"
> pin were both wired to the bare copper wire (the
> white wire was capped off, because it was really the
> other hot leg of a 240 V circuit.)
>
> The plug-in thingie said it was just fine.

That's normal. There are testers that test for that, but they cost
something like $200.

--
--Tim Smith

Posted by Speedy Jim on April 15, 2007, 10:50 am


Alex wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> My wife and I are looking at possibly moving into her mother's old
> home, but one of my concerns is the wiring in the house. The home was
> built in the early 1950's, and with an older fusebox outside the house
> (old screw-in fuses) plus no ground on any power outlets (two-prong),
> we're thinking of having the house rewired plus putting a newer
> fusebox (with circuit breakers) inside the house.

Are you in an area where permits/inspection will be
required? If so, find out ahead of time what will be
required by the authorities. You may be greatly surprised.
Don't skip over this basic step.

Jim

Posted by sym on April 15, 2007, 6:41 pm


> Hi Everyone,
>
> My wife and I are looking at possibly moving into her mother's old
> home, but one of my concerns is the wiring in the house. The home was
> built in the early 1950's, and with an older fusebox outside the house
> (old screw-in fuses) plus no ground on any power outlets (two-prong),
> we're thinking of having the house rewired plus putting a newer
> fusebox (with circuit breakers) inside the house.
>
> The house is three bedroom, one bath (about 1200 sq), and there's
> about 3-4 outlets per room. Does someone know the approximate cost
> we're looking at for such a job? Also, would it be something I could
> do to some degree? Possibly running all the wires back to a central
> location to have an electrician come in and wire-up the box with
> inside lines plus city power?
>
> Thanks for any suggestions or ideas ...
>
> Alex

i wouldnt rewire the entire house, just to those that you need to plug
in a 3 prong cord (computer, fridge, and so on. that should help cut
some cost, then you could invest it into smoke detectors.
as far as your service goes if you dont have an electric stove, water,
heater dryer, garage, well, hot tub, or plan to add some major loads
then i would stick too 100 amp service, seeing the average house
probabaly uses less than 40 amps most the time. dont fall for the ugg
more power is better. it isnt just cost you more.
but you live there and if it brings you peace of mind then go for it.
i would say smoke detectors first thats some peace there.
but with what your first paragraph says your into thousands of dollars


Posted by hallerb@aol.com on April 15, 2007, 6:58 pm


>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi Everyone,
>
> > My wife and I are looking at possibly moving into her mother's old
> > home, but one of my concerns is the wiring in the house. =A0The home was
> > built in the early 1950's, and with an older fusebox outside the house
> > (old screw-in fuses) plus no ground on any power outlets (two-prong),
> > we're thinking of having the house rewired plus putting a newer
> > fusebox (with circuit breakers) inside the house.
>
> > The house is three bedroom, one bath (about 1200 sq), and there's
> > about 3-4 outlets per room. =A0Does someone know the approximate cost
> > we're looking at for such a job? =A0Also, would it be something I could
> > do to some degree? =A0Possibly running all the wires back to a central
> > location to have an electrician come in and wire-up the box with
> > inside lines plus city power?
>
> > Thanks for any suggestions or ideas ...
>
> > Alex
>
> i wouldnt rewire the entire house, just to those that you need to plug
> in a 3 prong cord (computer, fridge, and so on. =A0that should help cut
> some cost, =A0then you could invest it into smoke detectors.
> as far as your service goes if you dont have an electric stove, water,
> heater dryer, garage, well, hot tub, or plan to add some major loads
> then i would stick too 100 amp service, seeing the average house
> probabaly uses less than 40 amps most the time. dont fall for the ugg
> more power is better. it isnt just cost you more.
> but you live there and if it brings you peace of mind then go for it.
> i would say smoke detectors first thats some peace there.
> but with what your first paragraph says your into thousands of dollars- H=
ide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

the cost difference between 100 amp and 200 is minimal and power use
is up nationwide. Years ago I went from 60 to 100 AMP now need to go
to 200. Not only raw power but number of breaker spaces.

At least if you have BX upgrade ALL outlets to 3 prong, more
convenient and at resale time very helpful.

then upgrade kitchen and bath to adquate number of outlets all GFCI
protected.

This will be $$$ well spent..............


Posted by sym on April 15, 2007, 7:44 pm


>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > Hi Everyone,
>
> > > My wife and I are looking at possibly moving into her mother's old
> > > home, but one of my concerns is the wiring in the house. ?The home was
> > > built in the early 1950's, and with an older fusebox outside the house
> > > (old screw-in fuses) plus no ground on any power outlets (two-prong),
> > > we're thinking of having the house rewired plus putting a newer
> > > fusebox (with circuit breakers) inside the house.
>
> > > The house is three bedroom, one bath (about 1200 sq), and there's
> > > about 3-4 outlets per room. ?Does someone know the approximate cost
> > > we're looking at for such a job? ?Also, would it be something I could
> > > do to some degree? ?Possibly running all the wires back to a central
> > > location to have an electrician come in and wire-up the box with
> > > inside lines plus city power?
>
> > > Thanks for any suggestions or ideas ...
>
> > > Alex
>
> > i wouldnt rewire the entire house, just to those that you need to plug
> > in a 3 prong cord (computer, fridge, and so on. ?that should help cut
> > some cost, ?then you could invest it into smoke detectors.
> > as far as your service goes if you dont have an electric stove, water,
> > heater dryer, garage, well, hot tub, or plan to add some major loads
> > then i would stick too 100 amp service, seeing the average house
> > probabaly uses less than 40 amps most the time. dont fall for the ugg
> > more power is better. it isnt just cost you more.
> > but you live there and if it brings you peace of mind then go for it.
> > i would say smoke detectors first thats some peace there.
> > but with what your first paragraph says your into thousands of dollars- Hide
quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> the cost difference between 100 amp and 200 is minimal and power use
> is up nationwide. Years ago I went from 60 to 100 AMP now need to go
> to 200. Not only raw power but number of breaker spaces.
>
> At least if you have BX upgrade ALL outlets to 3 prong, more
> convenient and at resale time very helpful.
>
> then upgrade kitchen and bath to adquate number of outlets all GFCI
> protected.
>
> This will be $$$ well spent..............- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

on a straight up and in service true not alot of diff probably $500.
but for some reason i suspect there is no basement due to the service
being outside. yes the extra space can be nice but again depends on
what loads exsist and what they might need in the future. they do make
100 amp 30 circuit panels


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