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Roof Repair Bids - Hail Damage eheckman 11-20-2006
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Posted by on November 20, 2006, 8:01 am


Our house has hail damage to the roof. The insurance company has
provided their estimate. We now have three estimates from contractors.
The three estimates are from a list of contractors the adjuster
identified - not endorsed.

The three estimates are wildly different in price but it does not
appear in scope. The insurance company has identified a need for 52 sq
of roofing removal and 57 sq necessary to cover the roof. All three
bids are using 30 year dimensional shingles by different companies -
GAF, Tamko and Owens Corning. (Reading through earlier posts, there is
not a consensus on which is better.) Two have 15# felt and one has 30#.
Only one has identified the number of nails per shingle - 4 - the
others have not. The bids came in at $11,600, $9,860 and $7,400. The
lower two are within the insurance estimate. Choosing the lower does
not gain me money but I see no reason to cheat the insurance company if
I can get the same quality of work for lower money. All are members of
the BBB and I plan to check their records. Two have worked extensively
in our neighborhood repairing roofs after this storm.

1) What can be making such a difference? Two have provided 3 tab
estimates - which is what we have now. The difference in pricing
between dimensional and 3 tab is very different. One has a $2,000
difference and the other a $700 difference. I am planning to ask about
squares estimated to see if that is driving this.

2) Is the felt difference important?

3) I have read of 4 and 6 nails recommended. I understand 6 would be
better. How much better?

4) What other questions should I focus on?


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Posted by hallerb@aol.com on November 20, 2006, 8:09 am


I would spend the extra bucks for that membrane material that sticks to
the substrate and seals all nail holes.

just to be extra safe:)

I wouldnt have a new roof installed in cold weather the self sealing
shingles may never stick:(

that happened here:(:(

ended up replacing roof again and warranty didnt cover it:(


Posted by on November 20, 2006, 8:28 am



hallerb@aol.com wrote:
> I would spend the extra bucks for that membrane material that sticks to
> the substrate and seals all nail holes.
>
> just to be extra safe:)
>
> I wouldnt have a new roof installed in cold weather the self sealing
> shingles may never stick:(
>
> that happened here:(:(
>
> ended up replacing roof again and warranty didnt cover it:(



One big thing that can cause price difference has nothing to do with
the materials or workmanship. If a contractor has plenty of work
already, he may bid higher, figuring if he gets it a good margin, he'll
work it in somehow cause it's worth his while. If he needs work, then
he will be more likely to give a better price.


Posted by Andy on November 20, 2006, 9:14 am



trader4@optonline.net wrote:\
> One big thing that can cause price difference has nothing to do with
> the materials or workmanship. If a contractor has plenty of work
> already, he may bid higher, figuring if he gets it a good margin, he'll
> work it in somehow cause it's worth his while. If he needs work, then
> he will be more likely to give a better price.

Andy comments:

Exactly.... In roof work, or concrete work, you will always get
very different estimates if you talk to enough people. Your insurance
company appraiser has a much much wider breadth of knowledge than
you do, and his appraisal will be in the ball park of the cost...Often
on the high side.

One thing that I did was to call my insurance agent and ask him
who he used to re-roof his own personal residence, when it was done
last.... They won't "reccommend" a contractor, for obvious reasons,
but should be very glad to tell you the guys he used himself. It
worked
out very well for me... A good job, at a fair price, and withing the
insurance appraiser estimate.

Andy in Eureka, Texas


Posted by Eric in North TX on November 20, 2006, 10:26 am


> 2) Is the felt difference important?
>
> 3) I have read of 4 and 6 nails recommended. I understand 6 would be
> better. How much better?
>
RE: 2
There is nothing more important to a quality roofing job than 30 lb
felt, IMO.
I know many, many people will tell you it is only a moisture barrier,
but think about that, the roof is only a moisture barrier. 15 lb is
like black newspaper in more ways than one, it tears easily even when
new, disintegrates at a touch when a few years old. They will charge
considerably more to use 30 lb because it costs twice as much and
covers half as much, also it is harder to work with, but well worth the
effort it the "life of your roof". BTW, I'm residing a 50s house and
they used 30lb in some spots, 15lb in others for house wrap. When we
have to remove the old siding, the 30 is re-usable, the 15 usually
falls off and hasn't been doing the job for some time.
RE: 3
That really depends on the likelihood of high winds in your area. I
would always go for more nails, but 60 - 80 mph winds are very likely
in my area.


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