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Roof Repair - pictures - what am I in for? Paul 09-20-2006
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Posted by Paul on October 12, 2006, 4:16 pm


Hi, I posted this topic some time ago & received invaluable advice that
I may be eligible for a roofing claim. So - finally got out the ladder
& hoped that something would be printed on the back of one of the
shingles, however, nothing is printed there.

Checking http://tinyurl.com/nl93v, I see the process is to send
unfolded shingles to the company to them to see if you're eligible. Can
do, but it's a bit of a fishing expidition, perhaps my shingles weren't
even made by them & I'm throwing good money after bad.

Is there any way to tell, even make an educated guess?

Also, I am open to green idea's like shingles-made-from-tires, or even
photo-electric shingles. Let the url's fly! Thanks in advance. Paul


IGot2P wrote:
> Paul wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I'm in a 10 year old brick two-story in Toronto, Canada. The sunward
> > side of my roof looks pretty bad to me, while the shaded side is in
> > perfect condition. Here is a link to some pictures of the problem;
> >
> > http://picasaweb.google.com/pauldelange7/MyRoofIsInTrouble
> >
> > I've heard that my roof needs better ventalation - any substance to
> > this, or is it basically UV damage?
> >
> > Most importantly, what sort of stance do I take with repairman (I fix
> > alot of things, but I don't think I want to do this one!). Do I;
> > - need a new roof (sunny side only)
> > - just need some repair where the shingles are worn, and perhaps some
> > new vents?
> >
> > I just want to know what I'm talking about before engaging any
> > repairmen. Thanks!
>
> Before you do anything check and see if the singles were made by
> Certainteed. They had a major problem from about 1992 through 1997 with
> their shingles curling on the corners. If they were made by Certainteed
> just point your browser to http://tinyurl.com/nl93v and start the
> roofing claim process. There is also a class action lawsuit against them
> that you might want to jump into.
>
> Don


AppliancePartsPros.com, Inc.
Posted by Norminn on September 20, 2006, 2:00 pm
Paul wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'm in a 10 year old brick two-story in Toronto, Canada. The sunward
> side of my roof looks pretty bad to me, while the shaded side is in
> perfect condition. Here is a link to some pictures of the problem;
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/pauldelange7/MyRoofIsInTrouble
>
> I've heard that my roof needs better ventalation - any substance to
> this, or is it basically UV damage?
>
Possibly both. Your roof pretty much tells the story. There is a
formula for calculating attic ventilation. One sq. ft. of vent for each
300 sq. ft. of attic floor? You can do a google search to find more
information.

> Most importantly, what sort of stance do I take with repairman (I fix
> alot of things, but I don't think I want to do this one!). Do I;
> - need a new roof (sunny side only)
> - just need some repair where the shingles are worn, and perhaps some
> new vents?

Do your photos show the "good" side? Looks like you need a tearoff and
reroof. Pick you favorite brand of roofing - GAF, Certainteed, etc. -
then find the company's website and look at installation instructions.
They will tell you what underlayment, how many nails, etc. Look at the
underside of the roof for signs of water leaks or rotted deck. If you
have fascia that needs repair, get it done before the new roof.
>
> I just want to know what I'm talking about before engaging any
> repairmen. Thanks!
>

If you don't know products or contractors in your area, talk to friends
and neighbors who have had good results that have lasted.

Be sure, when you get bids, that they specify the products, costs, time
frame, disposal, release of lien (if they do that up there), and
cleanup. Don't be surprised if a shingle blows off or something leaks.
Even good roofers have trouble, and this is where good references are
critical - do they respond appropriately when things go wrong.

Posted by Fred Wilson on September 20, 2006, 7:21 pm
Not that I am an expert by any measure but I would guess it would be
money best spent to replace the whole roof.

Myself and the neighbors got really good discounts for getting our roofs
done at the same time. It turned out that all of us had been getting
estimates. I saw a roofing truck at my neighbor and asked the guy to
come give me an estimate.

I asked what would be in it for all of us if we got all the roofs done
by him. He said he would give us all a discount. Resulted in a $1,000
savings to each of us even compared to the two estimates I already had
received.



Paul wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'm in a 10 year old brick two-story in Toronto, Canada. The sunward
> side of my roof looks pretty bad to me, while the shaded side is in
> perfect condition. Here is a link to some pictures of the problem;
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/pauldelange7/MyRoofIsInTrouble
>
> I've heard that my roof needs better ventalation - any substance to
> this, or is it basically UV damage?
>
> Most importantly, what sort of stance do I take with repairman (I fix
> alot of things, but I don't think I want to do this one!). Do I;
> - need a new roof (sunny side only)
> - just need some repair where the shingles are worn, and perhaps some
> new vents?
>
> I just want to know what I'm talking about before engaging any
> repairmen. Thanks!
>

Posted by Paul on September 21, 2006, 10:57 am
Several folks asked if any of those pictures were from the good side of
my roof - the answer is no, the good side basically looks like a
brand-new roof. Also, those horrible-looking close-ups are where the
damage is worst.

> Wow. How you ever checked how hot your attic gets?
Nope.

> Also what is the color of shingles? Dark ones absorb more heat for sure.

Mystifyingly, the shingles are black. So when the sun is high in the
summer, they heat the house up. In the winter, when the sun is low, it
barely reaches the shingles. Why would people use black shingles in
area's where you need air conditioning? Toronto, btw, is not that
different from NYC in the summer, weather-wise.

> From that type of damage it is something I would expect of an
> unvented cathedral ceiling. What brand and grade of shingles were used,
> they look bad.

Cathedral ceiling is correct, there are some vents, but apparently not
enough!

> I'd say that roof is a good candidate for non-asphalt roofing
> of some sort. Slate, or fiberglass/concrete, or something.
> http://www.metalshingle.com/ has some interesting stuff,
> or maybe integral photovoltaic panels.

I will check this out, and recently I've read about roofs made from old
tires that last forever. I'd like to be green, but don't have unlimited
funds. I think where there are environmentally friendly solutions and
non-environmentally friendly solutions they should be taxed to make the
friendly choice more attractive.

> Before you do anything check and see if the singles were made by
> Certainteed. They had a major problem from about 1992 through 1997 with
> their shingles curling on the corners. If they were made by Certainteed
> just point your browser to http://tinyurl.com/nl93v and start the
> roofing claim process. There is also a class action lawsuit against them
> that you might want to jump into.

Excellent. I will check this - I assume I need to look underneath a
shingle for a maker?


Finally, thanks to everyone for the advice. It's not what I wanted to
hear (I was hoping someone would say Aw, replace a few shingle & add
some vents), but I'm a little more educated now then before.


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