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Roof Sagging John J. Beltham 09-01-2007
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Posted by on September 1, 2007, 8:50 pm
I am in the process of evaluating a house for possible purchase. While
inspecting it I noticed that the roof was sagging. I crawled into the
attic and noticed that a main support timber had failed and someone
had attempted to brace it. You can see a photo here
http://s216.photobucket.com/albums/cc81/digital686/ This is not the
roof in question but ithe picture depects exactly what I found in the
attic. I plan on having a licensed roofing contractor evaluate the
roof. The house is circa 1955 and built on a slab. I do not see any
cracks in the stucco or drywall, just one small area that is sagging
on the roof above where this timber is. I was just wondering what
could cause this timber to fail?

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Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on September 1, 2007, 9:36 pm

<John J. Beltham> wrote in message
>I am in the process of evaluating a house for possible purchase. While
> inspecting it I noticed that the roof was sagging. I crawled into the
> attic and noticed that a main support timber had failed and someone
> had attempted to brace it. You can see a photo here
> http://s216.photobucket.com/albums/cc81/digital686/ This is not the
> roof in question but ithe picture depects exactly what I found in the
> attic. I plan on having a licensed roofing contractor evaluate the
> roof. The house is circa 1955 and built on a slab. I do not see any
> cracks in the stucco or drywall, just one small area that is sagging
> on the roof above where this timber is. I was just wondering what
> could cause this timber to fail?

Leaks are a good start, moisture from poor ventilation are good starts.
Poor construction and inadequate material can be factors. Be very careful
if you are buying this place. If the roof was left in poor repair, so were
other parts of the house. Be sure the price is right if you buy because you
may need major repairs.



Posted by Roger Taylor on September 2, 2007, 12:38 am
<John J. Beltham> wrote in message
>I am in the process of evaluating a house for possible purchase. While
> inspecting it I noticed that the roof was sagging. I crawled into the
> attic and noticed that a main support timber had failed and someone
> had attempted to brace it. You can see a photo here
> http://s216.photobucket.com/albums/cc81/digital686/ This is not the
> roof in question but ithe picture depects exactly what I found in the
> attic. I plan on having a licensed roofing contractor evaluate the
> roof. The house is circa 1955 and built on a slab. I do not see any
> cracks in the stucco or drywall, just one small area that is sagging
> on the roof above where this timber is. I was just wondering what
> could cause this timber to fail?

The remedy is as important as the cause. Cause could be many things,
including insufficient rafter or bracing strength, or wood weakened by rot
or moisture. Roofers in my experience know little of substructure and rafter
sizing, bracing, and spacing. Also avoid "building inspectors" (no degree
required).
For this issue, get a competent structural or civil engineer with full
knowledge of current codes for roof substructure building. They can tell you
why rafter bracing failed, how it failed, and whether a support structure
needs to be rebuild or redesigned. You'll find them in the yellow pages, and
can pay them per visit or per hour. Well worth it, if you are planning to
buy.
Roger



Posted by Joseph Meehan on September 2, 2007, 6:33 am
I suggest Roger has the right answer.

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"Roger Taylor" <sherryrogeratcomcastdotnet> wrote in message
> <John J. Beltham> wrote in message
>>I am in the process of evaluating a house for possible purchase. While
>> inspecting it I noticed that the roof was sagging. I crawled into the
>> attic and noticed that a main support timber had failed and someone
>> had attempted to brace it. You can see a photo here
>> http://s216.photobucket.com/albums/cc81/digital686/ This is not the
>> roof in question but ithe picture depects exactly what I found in the
>> attic. I plan on having a licensed roofing contractor evaluate the
>> roof. The house is circa 1955 and built on a slab. I do not see any
>> cracks in the stucco or drywall, just one small area that is sagging
>> on the roof above where this timber is. I was just wondering what
>> could cause this timber to fail?
>
> The remedy is as important as the cause. Cause could be many things,
> including insufficient rafter or bracing strength, or wood weakened by rot
> or moisture. Roofers in my experience know little of substructure and
> rafter sizing, bracing, and spacing. Also avoid "building inspectors" (no
> degree required).
> For this issue, get a competent structural or civil engineer with full
> knowledge of current codes for roof substructure building. They can tell
> you why rafter bracing failed, how it failed, and whether a support
> structure needs to be rebuild or redesigned. You'll find them in the
> yellow pages, and can pay them per visit or per hour. Well worth it, if
> you are planning to buy.
> Roger
>


Posted by valvejob on September 2, 2007, 2:05 am
On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 17:50:49 -0700, John J. Beltham wrote:

>I am in the process of evaluating a house for possible purchase. While
>inspecting it I noticed that the roof was sagging. I crawled into the
>attic and noticed that a main support timber had failed and someone
>had attempted to brace it. You can see a photo here
>http://s216.photobucket.com/albums/cc81/digital686/ This is not the
>roof in question but ithe picture depects exactly what I found in the
>attic. I plan on having a licensed roofing contractor evaluate the
>roof. The house is circa 1955 and built on a slab. I do not see any
>cracks in the stucco or drywall, just one small area that is sagging
>on the roof above where this timber is. I was just wondering what
>could cause this timber to fail?

Probably defective timber, but it makes no nevermind.

You can brace it and level it and it will last forever so take the
money you spend on inspectors and put it in bracing timber.

.



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