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Roofing Question DerbyDad03 04-05-2008
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Posted by DerbyDad03 on April 6, 2008, 12:20 am
cf111a9fd@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:
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> >> > My wife got a quote to replace our roof. Since I haven't spoken to
> >> > the guy yet, I've got question about one thing he quoted:
>
> >> > "Additional cost of $45/sheet for 1/2" plywood."
>
> >> > I have 3/4" tongue & groove under the shingles, not plywood. He
> >> > didn't look in the attic, so I doubt he knows this.
>
> >> > Can I assume that the easy answer is - When I tell him it's 3/4"
> >> > tongue & groove he'll just quote me a higher price for 3/4" ply?
>
> >> You can clarify this with your roofer, but on the rare occasions that
> >> I have bid roof work, I would say something like "Contractor assumes
> >> that a re-deck will not be necessary. =A0If roof needs a complete
> >> redeck, an additional charge of $45 per sheet of 1/2" plywood will
> >> apply.
>
> >> Most older (pre-WWII) houses in my area have a layer of cedar shakes
> >> at the bottom, and the 3/4" pine sheathing underneath has large gaps
> >> in between the boards to allow the cedar to breath. =A0Once the roof is=

> >> torn off, the entire roof needs to be redecked, and we usually use
> >> 7/16" or 1/2" OSB.
>
> >> JK
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> > It sounds like you're saying that it's all or nothing. We both know
> > that's not true, so didn't you ever bid on a job that might need just
> > a sheet or two? Did you assume (and show up with) 1/2" ply?
>
> > For what it's worth, my deck is tight, no gaps...
>
> I've done roofing only on a personal basis and the last one was qute a
> doozie. But anyway, in my limited exposure as to what's out there I've
> never seen/heard of 3/4 t&g for roof decking. Kinda heavy duty no? That
> doozie I mentioned was way north in the northeast, 50mi from Canada. I
> think it was just 5/8" at most. Any regular sheathing roofs I've done
> always had gaps. Gaps for expansion or it buckles. In fact some of the
> sheets on that one did not have gaps and they buckled on many. Fixrd
> that and ran a saw blade down all the seams to prevent buckling.- Hide quo=
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> - Show quoted text -

My whole house is 3/4" t&g. Subfloors and roof decking is 6 inch wide
material, exterior wall sheathing is 10" wide.

Interior walls are also 3/4" thick - 3/8 plaster over 3/8" x 8" t&g
brown-paper covered gypsum-like material. Seriously, it's t&g gypsum
board.

1956 colonial in western NY. Just a tad over-built. <g>

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Posted by Red Green on April 6, 2008, 12:25 am

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> cf111a9fd@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >> > My wife got a quote to replace our roof. Since I haven't spoken
>> >> > to the guy yet, I've got question about one thing he quoted:
>>
>> >> > "Additional cost of $45/sheet for 1/2" plywood."
>>
>> >> > I have 3/4" tongue & groove under the shingles, not plywood. He
>> >> > didn't look in the attic, so I doubt he knows this.
>>
>> >> > Can I assume that the easy answer is - When I tell him it's 3/4"
>> >> > tongue & groove he'll just quote me a higher price for 3/4" ply?
>>
>> >> You can clarify this with your roofer, but on the rare occasions
>> >> that I have bid roof work, I would say something like "Contractor
>> >> assumes that a re-deck will not be necessary.  If roof needs a
>> >> complete redeck, an additional charge of $45 per sheet of 1/2"
>> >> plywood will apply.
>>
>> >> Most older (pre-WWII) houses in my area have a layer of cedar
>> >> shakes at the bottom, and the 3/4" pine sheathing underneath has
>> >> large gaps in between the boards to allow the cedar to breath.
>> >>  Once the roof is
>
>> >> torn off, the entire roof needs to be redecked, and we usually use
>> >> 7/16" or 1/2" OSB.
>>
>> >> JK
>>
>> > It sounds like you're saying that it's all or nothing. We both know
>> > that's not true, so didn't you ever bid on a job that might need
>> > just a sheet or two? Did you assume (and show up with) 1/2" ply?
>>
>> > For what it's worth, my deck is tight, no gaps...
>>
>> I've done roofing only on a personal basis and the last one was qute
>> a doozie. But anyway, in my limited exposure as to what's out there
>> I've never seen/heard of 3/4 t&g for roof decking. Kinda heavy duty
>> no? That doozie I mentioned was way north in the northeast, 50mi from
>> Canada. I think it was just 5/8" at most. Any regular sheathing roofs
>> I've done always had gaps. Gaps for expansion or it buckles. In fact
>> some of the sheets on that one did not have gaps and they buckled on
>> many. Fixrd that and ran a saw blade down all the seams to prevent
>> buckling.- Hide quo
> ted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> My whole house is 3/4" t&g. Subfloors and roof decking is 6 inch wide
> material, exterior wall sheathing is 10" wide.
>
> Interior walls are also 3/4" thick - 3/8 plaster over 3/8" x 8" t&g
> brown-paper covered gypsum-like material. Seriously, it's t&g gypsum
> board.
>
> 1956 colonial in western NY. Just a tad over-built. <g>

Thing is almost as old as me. I'm starting to get some rot too :-(

Posted by Big_Jake on April 6, 2008, 1:11 am
>
>
>
>
> > > My wife got a quote to replace our roof. Since I haven't spoken to the
> > > guy yet, I've got question about one thing he quoted:
>
> > > "Additional cost of $45/sheet for 1/2" plywood."
>
> > > I have 3/4" tongue & groove under the shingles, not plywood. He didn't
> > > look in the attic, so I doubt he knows this.
>
> > > Can I assume that the easy answer is - When I tell him it's 3/4"
> > > tongue & groove he'll just quote me a higher price for 3/4" ply?
>
> > You can clarify this with your roofer, but on the rare occasions that
> > I have bid roof work, I would say something like "Contractor assumes
> > that a re-deck will not be necessary. If roof needs a complete
> > redeck, an additional charge of $45 per sheet of 1/2" plywood will
> > apply.
>
> > Most older (pre-WWII) houses in my area have a layer of cedar shakes
> > at the bottom, and the 3/4" pine sheathing underneath has large gaps
> > in between the boards to allow the cedar to breath. Once the roof is
> > torn off, the entire roof needs to be redecked, and we usually use
> > 7/16" or 1/2" OSB.
>
> > JK
>
> It sounds like you're saying that it's all or nothing. We both know
> that's not true, so didn't you ever bid on a job that might need just
> a sheet or two? Did you assume (and show up with) 1/2" ply?
>
> For what it's worth, my deck is tight, no gaps...

Since I wouldn't know how much I might need, I would wait 'til I
started the tear off before making the call on that sort of thing. I
would hate to show up with several sheets of plywood that I might not
need to use, or worse yet, guess at the thickness, but I am guessing
that things vary quite a bit regionally. I see mostly 3/4" as
sheathing, and sometimes thicker on really old (turn of the century)
buildings.

JK

Posted by cshenk on April 6, 2008, 11:35 am
"DerbyDad03" wrote

> My wife got a quote to replace our roof. Since I haven't spoken to the
> guy yet, I've got question about one thing he quoted:
>
> "Additional cost of $45/sheet for 1/2" plywood."

Thats pretty cheap. Perhaps a volume sale price?

> I have 3/4" tongue & groove under the shingles, not plywood. He didn't
> look in the attic, so I doubt he knows this.

He was on the roof though? Depending on how he inspected, he may have lifted
shingles and been able to tell from edges. Also, you dont say how much he
is replacing. If he' really replacing (as in all the wood layer), it doesnt
matter if he matches what used to be there.

> Can I assume that the easy answer is - When I tell him it's 3/4"
> tongue & groove he'll just quote me a higher price for 3/4" ply?

Thats reasonable. Best to tell him too. Oh, I'd get a second estimate and
a 3rd <g>.



Posted by Wayne Whitney on April 6, 2008, 11:52 am

> I have 3/4" tongue & groove under the shingles, not plywood. He didn't
> look in the attic.

If you are in a high wind or seismic area, you may wish to consider
going over all the T&G 1x with 1/2" plywood to improve the shear
resistance of the roof. Of course, the wall sheathing would be more
important to strengthen, but it is presumably not accessible.

Cheers, Wayne

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