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Roofs Kurt Ullman 07-11-2006
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Posted by JD on July 11, 2006, 9:14 pm

tbasc@bellsouth.net wrote:
> Kurt Ullman wrote:
> > I am having my roof redone. Believing in "trust but verify", what are
> > some of the things I should be looking while they are here and for
> > awhile after they have left to make sure the job is being done properly.
>
> All this has been said before.
> Before the work is done:
> Check recent clients for satisfaction.
> Have a written contract.
> Include unit prices for replacing sheathing & fascia.
> Include specifications for replacement deck, roofing felt, shingles,
> drip edge=s, and flashing.
> Include - as noted by others - quality of flashing installation.
> Include standards for clean-up both daily and at job end.
> Include remediation for damaged shrubs and lawn.
>
> When the job begins, keep a wrapper from the various materials and any
> instructions that might be included. Check the manufacturer's web site
> for installation instructions.
> Don't allow installation over a wet deck.
> TB

What he said, and I'll repeat.......cleanup. Nails can reak havoc on
lawn mower and vehicle tires. Make sure they run a magnetic sweep over
the areas around your house each day and it wouldn't hurt to buy a
magentic sweep for yourself. The $20 you spend on it will be worth it
before you replace or repair a $100 tire on your vehilce. Besides they
are a handy tool to have around. Tarps don't catch everything.

Main thing to remember is YOU are the SUPERVISOR. If you don't like it,
don't be afarid to tell them to redo it. As I tell my customers, I'm
going home at the end of the day, if there is something about the job
you don't like, let me know and I'll fix it.Most reputable contractors
feel the same way, but we aren't mind readers. Most aren't afraid of
questions and don't get hurt feelings if you question what they are
doing and why they are doing it a certain way. If they do get hurt
feelings about it, it might be a sign they are covering up shoddy work
and don't like the fact you called them on it. I recommend you
supervise regularly and have contractor give you progress reports
regularly.

Your local home improvement stores can serve as good information spots
for who to and not to hire for jobs. They see these contractors on a
daily basis and they hear all the gossip about who can and cannot do
the job right.

Good Luck,
JD


Posted by Dan_Musicant on July 14, 2006, 10:13 pm

:Main thing to remember is YOU are the SUPERVISOR. If you don't like it,
:don't be afarid to tell them to redo it.

One portion of my roof was 3/12, meaning 3 feet of rise per 12 feet of
run. The shingle install instructions stated that this required double
underlayment, and I pointed this out to the project manager. He insisted
firstly that it was 4/12, which was the minimal slope for single
underlayment. I insisted it was indeed 3/12 and made him get his
measuring instrument from his truck and he confirmed that I was right.
He said he still wouldn't fix this, that it wasn't necessary, but later
in the day he called to say he was sending a couple of guys out next day
(a Saturday) to remove the shingles and underlayment on that portion of
the roof and reinstall with double underlayment.

Getting this guy to fix all the exposed nails was a big big hassle, and
I was the guy who had to find them all. All in all it took around a
month to get them to fix the problems, and there may well be others that
I wasn't able to spot. I couldn't find someone to give me an impartial
and professional inspection, and I really did try.

I went with this company because they seemed to have the best ideas for
repairing certain problems I had. Also, their quote was relatively
reasonable. Another factor was that winter was bearing down on me and I
had to make a decision quickly. It would have been better if I'd gotten
all over the situation a couple of months earlier.

It might be OK, but I'm not sure.

Good luck!

Dan

Posted by Dan_Musicant on July 14, 2006, 10:05 pm
On 11 Jul 2006 14:58:18 -0700, "tbasc@bellsouth.net"

:
:Kurt Ullman wrote:
:> I am having my roof redone. Believing in "trust but verify", what are
:> some of the things I should be looking while they are here and for
:> awhile after they have left to make sure the job is being done properly.
:
:All this has been said before.
:Before the work is done:
:Check recent clients for satisfaction.
:Have a written contract.
:Include unit prices for replacing sheathing & fascia.
:Include specifications for replacement deck, roofing felt, shingles,
:drip edge=s, and flashing.
:Include - as noted by others - quality of flashing installation.
:Include standards for clean-up both daily and at job end.
:Include remediation for damaged shrubs and lawn.
:
:When the job begins, keep a wrapper from the various materials and any
:instructions that might be included. Check the manufacturer's web site
:for installation instructions.
:Don't allow installation over a wet deck.
:TB

You might want to ask them for some extra shingles - 3 packages is what
I got, in case at some future time I need to make changes on the roof,
install a vent, remove one, replace shingles, etc. That way you will
have the instructions right on the package. As stated, instructions for
installation should be at the shingle manufacturer's website as well.

Read the contract before you sign, and have them make any additions or
explanations that you need.

Get at least 3 estimates (and contracts) before you choose anyone. I'd
get several more, myself. Once they inspect your roof, they go back to
the office and work up a contract and send it to you. You should read
each contract carefully. They vary considerably.

Inspect the work as it's done and observe what they do. Don't accept
exposed nails after the shingles are installed. My roofer had literally
well over 100 exposed nails. I made them remove those shingles and
replace them with properly installed shingles before they were paid.

If there is any chance of rain whatsoever (WHATSOEVER!), make sure they
tarp at least until underlayment is in place.

Dan


Posted by Norminn on July 15, 2006, 8:04 am
tbasc@bellsouth.net wrote:
> Kurt Ullman wrote:
>
>>I am having my roof redone. Believing in "trust but verify", what are
>>some of the things I should be looking while they are here and for
>>awhile after they have left to make sure the job is being done properly.
>
>
> All this has been said before.
> Before the work is done:
> Check recent clients for satisfaction.
> Have a written contract.
> Include unit prices for replacing sheathing & fascia.
> Include specifications for replacement deck, roofing felt, shingles,
> drip edge=s, and flashing.
> Include - as noted by others - quality of flashing installation.
> Include standards for clean-up both daily and at job end.
> Include remediation for damaged shrubs and lawn.
>
> When the job begins, keep a wrapper from the various materials and any
> instructions that might be included. Check the manufacturer's web site
> for installation instructions.
> Don't allow installation over a wet deck.
> TB
>
I don't like the recommendations contractors furnish - much rather have
a contractor who has worked for someone I know and whose work I have
seen and speaks for itself.

For any contracting job, I feel one is miles ahead by deciding on a
product ahead of time, researching it to know the standards and methods,
and asking educated questions. You are much better prepared to filter
out the cut-and-run contractors.

After a bad roofing job, with a poor choice of product, done on our
condo, I would add to the advice above:

BE THERE when the work is being done. No staples. Nailing is a
critical issue, so make sure it is done right, right number, size and
placement.

Underlayment will be right dimension plywood, not particle board, etc.

Commencement and completion dates.

Disposal of old roofing.

Posted by higgledy on July 21, 2006, 8:49 pm
The roofer claims he'll put 6 nails in each shingle with nail guns.
Are nail guns acceptable for a good roof job?


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