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Rotozip: goodgawd... Proctologically Violated©® 04-09-2007
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Posted by Tom G on April 10, 2007, 1:47 am



> Awl--
>
>
> To wit:
> The volume of the rotozip case calc'd out to 1,824 cubic inches.
> What makes that significant is that a full *cubic foot* is a mere 1,728 cu
> in.
> What makes this even more striking is that a 5 gal bucket of joint
> compound, paint, etc. is only 1,155 cubic inches.
>
> So a cubic foot is no small volume.
>
> The box I wound up putting the whole of the Rotozip kit in was 250 cu in,
> and could have easily fit in a better-proportioned 200 cu. in.
>
> So lessee,
> 1800 divided by 200 is 9.
> Thus, the inflated the volume of this product by a factor of 9.
>
> Which is about the same factor by which the infomercial peeple inflated
> its usefulness.
>
> This inflated-volume technique is widespread in Costco, Sears, Sam'sClub,
> HD, etc, where "509 piece kits" of whatever super tool is at hand, when
> all dumped in a paper bag, fit into a very small paper bag indeed.
> Yet the display is enormous, for artfully good reason.
> And which, even for a perenially PV'd cynic and semi-experienced shop rat
> as myself, are enticing and at times near-intoxicating.

Having worked a number of years at Sears, I suspect the oversize packaging
is aimed more at deterring shop lifters than enticing buyers to buy. Chase
a shop lifter running with one of these gigantic boxes and he/she will
likely drop it to run faster. Also easier to see them walking out the door
with the merchandise and easier to cable a bunch of them together to prevent
the snatch and run in the first place. Of course this still won't the stop
the dedicated shop lifter.

Tom G.



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Posted by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh on April 10, 2007, 7:32 am



> Awl--
> beach chairs for my shop, tools, among them, a near-new Rotozip.
> By no means an RCM-type shop guy, even he dismissed it as junk, and indeed
> he was correct.
>
> But what *inneresting junk it is*!

I'm jumping on the popular bandwagon here, PV.

Yes, it's a cheaply-made tool. But it has a definite purpose.

Welll....... yeah.... all those silly attachments work just as well/poorly
as one might suppose. But in its native mode - drywall trimming - the tool
just makes one marvel that it hadn't been done before.

Don't bitch out those folks until you've rocked a whole house, and not had
to measure-cut-measure-curse all the openings.

I can _find_, jump, and zip a receptacle hole with a roto-zip faster than
you can draw it out on the rock with a pencil. It cuts circles fast, clean,
and precisely. The clearance around the box is just what you need for a
clean fit and finish. The whole idea was well thought-out, even if the tool
is made to Sears quality.

On my remod-job, I figured I've saved fifteen/twenty hours of fiddle-fuss by
buying the "basic" RZ kit for $69.00.

LLoyd


Posted by Greg Menke on April 10, 2007, 12:34 pm




> > Awl--
> > beach chairs for my shop, tools, among them, a near-new Rotozip.
> > By no means an RCM-type shop guy, even he dismissed it as junk, and
> > indeed he was correct.
> >
> > But what *inneresting junk it is*!
>
> I'm jumping on the popular bandwagon here, PV.
>
> Yes, it's a cheaply-made tool. But it has a definite purpose.
>
> Welll....... yeah.... all those silly attachments work just as
> well/poorly as one might suppose. But in its native mode - drywall
> trimming - the tool just makes one marvel that it hadn't been done
> before.
>


Got that right. My rotozip was cheap at the price for chopping out
holes for the light cans, cut the rocking time massively wherever it was
usable. But they're more or less useless for anything other than
drywall, rpm too high and bits too soft- I'd say keep the rotozip and a
bag of drywall bits & throw out the rest, and by all means stick it in a
shoebox. After a couple renovation jobs the shoebox will start falling
apart, so maybe duct-tape the corners now to save time...

Gregm

Posted by Jim Yanik on April 10, 2007, 2:25 pm



>
>
>> > Awl--
>> > beach chairs for my shop, tools, among them, a near-new Rotozip.
>> > By no means an RCM-type shop guy, even he dismissed it as junk, and
>> > indeed he was correct.
>> >
>> > But what *inneresting junk it is*!
>>
>> I'm jumping on the popular bandwagon here, PV.
>>
>> Yes, it's a cheaply-made tool. But it has a definite purpose.
>>
>> Welll....... yeah.... all those silly attachments work just as
>> well/poorly as one might suppose. But in its native mode - drywall
>> trimming - the tool just makes one marvel that it hadn't been done
>> before.
>>
>
>
> Got that right. My rotozip was cheap at the price for chopping out
> holes for the light cans, cut the rocking time massively wherever it was
> usable. But they're more or less useless for anything other than
> drywall, rpm too high and bits too soft- I'd say keep the rotozip and a
> bag of drywall bits & throw out the rest, and by all means stick it in a
> shoebox. After a couple renovation jobs the shoebox will start falling
> apart, so maybe duct-tape the corners now to save time...
>
> Gregm
>

Or you could buy just the RZ bits and a $20 Harbor Freight trim router,and
get 1/4" router bits to do whatever other jobs you have. IIRC,the HF trim
router comes with 1/8" and 1/4" collets.

I've heard that drywall dust trashes the Dremel's bearings quickly.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Posted by Lew Hartswick on April 10, 2007, 8:45 am


Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
( A very long tirade sniped) :-)

For what I remember the "tool" in question was designed
to cut holes in drywall and I would think (never used one
myself) from what I see it would do that job very well.
The resultant of most marketing is to sell anything as
a "multi-purpose" tool so what you get is a "device"
that does nothing very well. :-)
...lew...

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