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Rotozip: goodgawd... Proctologically Violated©® 04-09-2007
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Posted by EXT on April 10, 2007, 10:08 am


I bought one basic unit without accessories solely to cut box outlets in
drywall. I never considered it useful for anything else.

> Proctologically Violated©® wrote:
> ( A very long tirade sniped) :-)
>
> For what I remember the "tool" in question was designed
> to cut holes in drywall and I would think (never used one
> myself) from what I see it would do that job very well.
> The resultant of most marketing is to sell anything as
> a "multi-purpose" tool so what you get is a "device"
> that does nothing very well. :-)
> ...lew...



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Posted by DAC on April 10, 2007, 10:20 am


> Proctologically Violated=A9=AE wrote:
>
> ( A very long tirade sniped) :-)
>
> For what I remember the "tool" in question was designed
> to cut holes in drywall and I would think (never used one
> myself) from what I see it would do that job very well.
> The resultant of most marketing is to sell anything as
> a "multi-purpose" tool so what you get is a "device"
> that does nothing very well. :-)
> ...lew...


I bought based on the hype to freehand cut soft material and snapped
all the bits...promptly returned.

Later in life watched an international crew hang rock using a RZ and
OMG they were masters at it...poke and go...poke and go. When I
rocked my new house I bought another and it a place for that task.


Posted by Proctologically Violated©® on April 10, 2007, 11:07 am


As Party Nominee of the IPPVM (Independent Party of the Proctologically
Violated (M)asses), I guess I won't be counting on your vote in '08, eh?
<sigh>

And, gee, *I* was tryna keep it clean, mostly fer Harold.....

Sheep?????? Goodgawd....

But are you suggesting I stfu so's whatever Highlander is furiously
thrusting away on me can concentrate a little better, with less said
distraction???
Man, I should be carrying a goddamm whistle and Mace!

And, you missed much of the point.

OK, I omitted the sheetrock utility, which is a very valid point.
And by consensus here, apparently the only valid point.
And, I suspect, where that rotozip came from to begin with.

And I didn't make the shoplifter connection, altho I think this is is quite
secondary to the primary mission of fleecing the Great American Pubic.

All of which doesn't change the, uh, thrust of the above, said fleecing.
God forbid the rotozip should be honestly marketed as a functional drywall
tool.
God forbid.

But, sheeeiit, there are 300,000,000 all-consuming drunkards weaving thru
the shopping malls of Merka, and frenetically clicking between HSM and QVC,
all of whom have $100 bills flapping out of their back pockets.

Might as well pluck'em, eh?

ALSO:

Most who protesteth loudest over my PV shtick are perhaps the most unwitting
Members of the IPPVM.

To wit, the Law of the PV'd:

EVERY working stiff is an unwitting member of
IPPVM.

The only escapees are
1. Those who are actually doing the PV'ing.
And they pay me absolutely no mind, mostly because they are too busy
laughing hysterically in their board meetings, whilst strategizing the
details of Global PV, laughing to and fro the bank, and washing themselves
off at the sink--or even better, making US wash them off when they're
done--orally, if possible.
2. Those who are not PV'ing anyone explicitly, by being able to live
strictly off the interest of their investments.
Which, btw, from grand PV pov, is still an indirect PV, but dats
another story....
3. Retirees, with enough to live on--for now.

The rest of us, esp. the young (most of whom will likely *never* be able to
leave their parents' homes), better get skilled in dumpster diving.
Buy yer pickup truck *now*.
And a shotgun.
Practice DD'g fer tools, wood, n' metal'shit, so's when it comes time to DD
fer FOOD, yer all well-practiced.

Hey, but the volume calculation ditty was pretty neat shtick, eh?
--
------
Mr. P.V.'d (formerly Droll Troll), Yonkers, NY

Stop Corruption in Congress & Send the Ultimate Message:
Absolutely Vote, but NOT for a Democrat or a Republican.
Ending Corruption in Congress is the *Single Best Way*
to Materially Improve Your Family's Life.
The Solution is so simple--and inexpensive!

entropic3.14decay at optonline2.718 dot net; remove pi and e to reply--ie,
all d'numbuhs

> On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 23:45:03 -0400, "Proctologically Violated©®"
>
>
>>
>>The only use I see for this over-hyped crap is as a grinder heftier than a
>>Dremel, but not as hefty as a true die grinder.
>
> It does jobs it was designed to do better than anything else
> available. If it doesn't do what you need to do then you are free
> to walk away from it and leave it alone. Your inability to
> understand its value does not make it an abomination or a fleecing
> because you are quite free not to buy one -- and in fact you did not
> buy it so your ox has not been gored by your foolishly having
> purchased a tool for which you have no use nor ability to use
> productively.
>
> You seem to persistently proclaim proctological violation enough to
> suggest that perhaps you invite it and enjoy it or at least enjoy
> bleating about it. If you don't enjoy and invite you might consider
> presenting less of a vertical smile with spread-cheeks invitation --
> and less bleating about eager and vigorous responses to your
> invitations might be appreciated.
>
> Ask any Highlander. Screwing a sheep serves a need though the bloody
> bleating can be distracting and a bit tedious...
>




Posted by Proctologically Violated©® on April 10, 2007, 12:08 pm


Oh, another quick thought, on the mentality of the marketers:

They don't even understand the basic utility of their own effing tool, for
drywall--or don't effing care.

If they did, instead of all the crap they stick in that suitcase-sized
carrying case--about the same size as Bosch's top of the line SDS-max rotary
hammer, at $549, a killer of a tool, bruh's--

Instead of all that crap, how bout a *usable* circle cutter, and router-like
TEMPLATES, dudes, for typical drywall cutouts--4,6" lighting cutouts, 2x4,
4x4 boxes, octagonals, etc. In fact, a templete for lighting cutouts would
obviate the circle cutter, in large measure--uh oh....
Nowhere, in the morass of of disjointed (and imo insulting) papers is there
even a mention of templates, that I could readily find.

Which says that the Marketers, in their boardroom meetings, *NEVER had any
intention for the rotozip to be used/taken seriously*.

As long as you bought the goddamm suitcase, and held on to it *just long
enough* so that it was no longer returnable.

I believe they dumped their inventory about a year ago, and you won't be
seeing dat shit until the next plucking.

Sheeit, iffin you can time the lemmings' march to the sea, you can eat good,
with minimal effort, for the next year.
xmas, in this case, I spose.
--
------
Mr. P.V.'d (formerly Droll Troll), Yonkers, NY

Stop Corruption in Congress & Send the Ultimate Message:
Absolutely Vote, but NOT for a Democrat or a Republican.
Ending Corruption in Congress is the *Single Best Way*
to Materially Improve Your Family's Life.
The Solution is so simple--and inexpensive!

entropic3.14decay at optonline2.718 dot net; remove pi and e to reply--ie,
all d'numbuhs

> As Party Nominee of the IPPVM (Independent Party of the Proctologically
> Violated (M)asses), I guess I won't be counting on your vote in '08, eh?
> <sigh>
>
> And, gee, *I* was tryna keep it clean, mostly fer Harold.....
>
> Sheep?????? Goodgawd....
>
> But are you suggesting I stfu so's whatever Highlander is furiously
> thrusting away on me can concentrate a little better, with less said
> distraction???
> Man, I should be carrying a goddamm whistle and Mace!
>
> And, you missed much of the point.
>
> OK, I omitted the sheetrock utility, which is a very valid point.
> And by consensus here, apparently the only valid point.
> And, I suspect, where that rotozip came from to begin with.
>
> And I didn't make the shoplifter connection, altho I think this is is
> quite secondary to the primary mission of fleecing the Great American
> Pubic.
>
> All of which doesn't change the, uh, thrust of the above, said fleecing.
> God forbid the rotozip should be honestly marketed as a functional drywall
> tool.
> God forbid.
>
> But, sheeeiit, there are 300,000,000 all-consuming drunkards weaving thru
> the shopping malls of Merka, and frenetically clicking between HSM and
> QVC, all of whom have $100 bills flapping out of their back pockets.
>
> Might as well pluck'em, eh?
>
> ALSO:
>
> Most who protesteth loudest over my PV shtick are perhaps the most
> unwitting Members of the IPPVM.
>
> To wit, the Law of the PV'd:
>
> EVERY working stiff is an unwitting member of
> IPPVM.
>
> The only escapees are
> 1. Those who are actually doing the PV'ing.
> And they pay me absolutely no mind, mostly because they are too busy
> laughing hysterically in their board meetings, whilst strategizing the
> details of Global PV, laughing to and fro the bank, and washing themselves
> off at the sink--or even better, making US wash them off when they're
> done--orally, if possible.
> 2. Those who are not PV'ing anyone explicitly, by being able to live
> strictly off the interest of their investments.
> Which, btw, from grand PV pov, is still an indirect PV, but dats
> another story....
> 3. Retirees, with enough to live on--for now.
>
> The rest of us, esp. the young (most of whom will likely *never* be able
> to leave their parents' homes), better get skilled in dumpster diving.
> Buy yer pickup truck *now*.
> And a shotgun.
> Practice DD'g fer tools, wood, n' metal'shit, so's when it comes time to
> DD fer FOOD, yer all well-practiced.
>
> Hey, but the volume calculation ditty was pretty neat shtick, eh?
> --
> ------
> Mr. P.V.'d (formerly Droll Troll), Yonkers, NY
>
> Stop Corruption in Congress & Send the Ultimate Message:
> Absolutely Vote, but NOT for a Democrat or a Republican.
> Ending Corruption in Congress is the *Single Best Way*
> to Materially Improve Your Family's Life.
> The Solution is so simple--and inexpensive!
>
> entropic3.14decay at optonline2.718 dot net; remove pi and e to reply--ie,
> all d'numbuhs
>
>> On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 23:45:03 -0400, "Proctologically Violated©®"
>>
>>
>>>
>>>The only use I see for this over-hyped crap is as a grinder heftier than
>>>a
>>>Dremel, but not as hefty as a true die grinder.
>>
>> It does jobs it was designed to do better than anything else
>> available. If it doesn't do what you need to do then you are free
>> to walk away from it and leave it alone. Your inability to
>> understand its value does not make it an abomination or a fleecing
>> because you are quite free not to buy one -- and in fact you did not
>> buy it so your ox has not been gored by your foolishly having
>> purchased a tool for which you have no use nor ability to use
>> productively.
>>
>> You seem to persistently proclaim proctological violation enough to
>> suggest that perhaps you invite it and enjoy it or at least enjoy
>> bleating about it. If you don't enjoy and invite you might consider
>> presenting less of a vertical smile with spread-cheeks invitation --
>> and less bleating about eager and vigorous responses to your
>> invitations might be appreciated.
>>
>> Ask any Highlander. Screwing a sheep serves a need though the bloody
>> bleating can be distracting and a bit tedious...
>>
>
>
>
>




Posted by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh on April 10, 2007, 12:25 pm



> Instead of all that crap, how bout a *usable* circle cutter, and
> router-like TEMPLATES, dudes, for typical drywall cutouts--4,6" lighting
> cutouts, 2x4, 4x4 boxes, octagonals, etc. In fact, a templete for
> lighting cutouts would obviate the circle cutter, in large measure--uh
> oh....
> Nowhere, in the morass of of disjointed (and imo insulting) papers is
> there even a mention of templates, that I could readily find.

See, now, PV? You've attacked the tool (for the purpose for which it was
intended) because you don't understand the job.

You don't need any templates in the kit. You _have_ templates of every box
you'll ever cut out _IN_the_house_ at the time of the job. A new set of
templates comes with every drywall job; they're called "outlet boxes".

The purpose of the RZ is to follow the exact shape of whatever's hiding
behind the rock, and cut a perfect hole exactly the right shape and size for
proper finishing of the wall. And it does that faster than you can think,
and it does it well.

Their circle cutter IS very usable -- in fact a pure joy to use. At least
the version that comes with the bottom-of-the-line kit is. I hung a few
dozen recessed fixtures for which there were no outlet boxes flush with the
ceiling. It took about an hour to mark out all the centers, and about an
hour to cut all the 5-1/4" holes.



LLoyd


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