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Rotozip: goodgawd... Proctologically Violated©® 04-09-2007
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Posted by Mark on April 11, 2007, 11:40 pm

> After the last one had me going, I can't wait to see how this one
> transpires..
> Searcher
>
The last one In retrospect dumping the salt OUT OF the bags into wheel
barrow ( clean) spreading around the pool with shovel might of been a better
idea, to bad I didn't think of that.



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Posted by Steve B on April 12, 2007, 12:34 am




>>
>> Personally, I don't think the hurricane of sheetrock dust is worth it.
> Most
>> drywall contractors I've seen still use a keyhole saw.
>
> Rotozips kick ass. One guy with an RZ can do a whole house in the time it
> takes a guy with a keyhole saw to do a big room. If the dust bugs you that
> much spray a little water on the wall. Either way you are gonna clean up
> some dust.

Today, I used a RotoZip. I had to tee into a water line, and run a stub
through the wall to make an outside hose bibb. Zip zap. Located the
studs, cut a hole, sweated in a tee, put the piece back with a little mud,
done. I set the depth so that I wouldn't have to worry about cutting
anything, and I didn't even come CLOSE to anything.

I think that only a union man working by the hour would have anything
against a RotoZip.

A hand drywall saw definitely has places where it's the weapon of choice.
Not many, though.

Steve

Steve



Posted by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh on April 12, 2007, 7:22 am

> After the last one had me going, I can't wait to see how this one
> transpires..
> Searcher
>
The last one In retrospect dumping the salt OUT OF the bags into wheel
barrow ( clean) spreading around the pool with shovel might of been a better
idea, to bad I didn't think of that.



Posted by Proctologically Violated©® on April 12, 2007, 8:14 am


>
>> Personally, I don't think the hurricane of sheetrock dust is worth it.
>> Most drywall contractors I've seen still use a keyhole saw.
>
> Ah! Another contender for the "I've never used the tool, and don't know
> how to drywall, but I know it's junk" crowd!

"Junk" has different contexts.

A tool can be crappily built, mis-advertised and mis-represented, and still
be narrowly useful, as many posters have shown.

There is no way the Zip I now have could withstand prolonged
industrial/trade use--proly not even much home use, for a variety of
reasons, just one of which is that half the goddamm parts are already
missing--and likely inevitably so.

No way you could re-tile a g-d bathroom with it, or peel up a kitchen
floor's worth of linoleum, or usefully sand anything but the edge of a 2x4.
iirc, the mis-infomercial spent mebbe 5%, if that, on valid shitrock
applications.

Perhaps "hustle" is a better word than "junk".
Like the drill doctor, where they claim a 1/2" bit costs $20, or a
fractional drill set $100, when decent 115 pc drill sets can be had for $29.
Or the instant sharpening of a carbide masonry bit--give me a break. You
couldn't sharpen a masonry bit that fast even on a green wheel on a 8"
pedestal grinder.

A pedagogic note:
God Forbid that the Pubic be TAUGHT how to sharpen drill bits by hand.
Not saying the DD is bad or junk--it may or may not be--proly is--but it is
F'SURE a hustle.

Or the ""7,000 lb truck" running over an Oreck. Please.....
The back wheel of that goddamm pickup coulda run over my slippered foot
without doing much damage.
Not saying the Oreck is bad or junk--it may or may not be--proly is--but is
is F'SURE a hustle.

Sleight-of-hand is *necessarily* employed by junk vendors, vending largely
junk.

Even if said junk can be useful.

Better, as NotEnoughBrains suggested, to buy the Porter Cable, if for no
other reason, to spite the Junk Peeple.

So, the "I don't know shit, but I know it's junk" crowd can indeed not know
shit, but still be right, just on Marketing GP.

Would be interesting, tho, to survey drywall contractors, to see what they
think, and why.
Would be a hoot if ATP were correct!!

Oh, this is funnier'n'shit.... I was a supervisor for a drywall
construction firm in Manhattan. :O
Didn't know shit about shitrock then, either. :)
Except that it was goddamm heavy..... :) :)
Thank god my house is plaster & lathe... :) :) :)
--
------
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Absolutely Vote, but NOT for a Democrat or a Republican.
Ending Corruption in Congress is the *Single Best Way*
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The Solution is so simple--and inexpensive!

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>
> The "secret" to the RZ type tools is that they shove the dust INTO the
> wall. You don't get a "hurricane of sheetrock dust". In fact, it's much
> cleaner than sawing.
>
> LLoyd
>
>




Posted by Steve B on April 12, 2007, 11:18 am



>>
>>> Personally, I don't think the hurricane of sheetrock dust is worth it.
>>> Most drywall contractors I've seen still use a keyhole saw.
>>
>> Ah! Another contender for the "I've never used the tool, and don't know
>> how to drywall, but I know it's junk" crowd!
>
> "Junk" has different contexts.
>
> A tool can be crappily built, mis-advertised and mis-represented, and
> still be narrowly useful, as many posters have shown.
>
> There is no way the Zip I now have could withstand prolonged
> industrial/trade use--proly not even much home use, for a variety of
> reasons, just one of which is that half the goddamm parts are already
> missing--and likely inevitably so.
>
> No way you could re-tile a g-d bathroom with it, or peel up a kitchen
> floor's worth of linoleum, or usefully sand anything but the edge of a
> 2x4.
> iirc, the mis-infomercial spent mebbe 5%, if that, on valid shitrock
> applications.
>
> Perhaps "hustle" is a better word than "junk".
> Like the drill doctor, where they claim a 1/2" bit costs $20, or a
> fractional drill set $100, when decent 115 pc drill sets can be had for
> $29.
> Or the instant sharpening of a carbide masonry bit--give me a break. You
> couldn't sharpen a masonry bit that fast even on a green wheel on a 8"
> pedestal grinder.
>
> A pedagogic note:
> God Forbid that the Pubic be TAUGHT how to sharpen drill bits by hand.
> Not saying the DD is bad or junk--it may or may not be--proly is--but it
> is F'SURE a hustle.
>
> Or the ""7,000 lb truck" running over an Oreck. Please.....
> The back wheel of that goddamm pickup coulda run over my slippered foot
> without doing much damage.
> Not saying the Oreck is bad or junk--it may or may not be--proly is--but
> is is F'SURE a hustle.
>
> Sleight-of-hand is *necessarily* employed by junk vendors, vending largely
> junk.
>
> Even if said junk can be useful.
>
> Better, as NotEnoughBrains suggested, to buy the Porter Cable, if for no
> other reason, to spite the Junk Peeple.
>
> So, the "I don't know shit, but I know it's junk" crowd can indeed not
> know shit, but still be right, just on Marketing GP.
>
> Would be interesting, tho, to survey drywall contractors, to see what they
> think, and why.
> Would be a hoot if ATP were correct!!
>
> Oh, this is funnier'n'shit.... I was a supervisor for a drywall
> construction firm in Manhattan. :O
> Didn't know shit about shitrock then, either. :)
> Except that it was goddamm heavy..... :) :)
> Thank god my house is plaster & lathe... :) :) :)
> --
> ------
> Mr. P.V.'d (formerly Droll Troll), Yonkers, NY
>
> Stop Corruption in Congress & Send the Ultimate Message:
> Absolutely Vote, but NOT for a Democrat or a Republican.
> Ending Corruption in Congress is the *Single Best Way*
> to Materially Improve Your Family's Life.
> The Solution is so simple--and inexpensive!
>
> entropic3.14decay at optonline2.718 dot net; remove pi and e to reply--ie,
> all d'numbuhs

So, DO you have any recommendations for products based on your own personal
experiences and vast intellect? Or just criticism?

Steve



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